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Big Bang Theory M-AM and other stuff...

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Idontknow

Member
I thought of posting this in the "lastest" big bang thread but its 18 pages and lost interest. So here it goes i hope you all know what antimatter and how its created (along whit matter). So theres this sub-theory of big bang that states that at the beginning there was this "concentration of stuff", whit matter and antimatter destroying each other all the time making energy and then making matter and antimatter again, and again, and again, more simple, equal ammounts of black and white making grey then spliting and doing it again, but then somenthing disturbed the balance and the "big bang" created few more matter than anti matter and so on that there was this lapse when there was no more antimatter and the residual matter made formed the universe. This theory gives me alot of answers because i believe that at one time the universe will dissapear and go back to what we call big bang, universe is not infinite, ITS HUGE, yes,more than we can understand, but after all, the universe is made of residual matter, so keeping with my point, i believe big bang will happen again because ALL the things we know have a cycle, looking always for perfection, so the universe we are living its the residual stuff of a cycle, our whole universe is the result of inperfection (thats why we wont find perfection...ever) The next universe might be ruled by antimatter, who knows...
Anyways, my theory is that big bang will happen again and again, doing and undoing until its perfect and simple, matter and antimatter anihilating each other whit no "disturbance" forever.
I would like to know if anyone believes the same or somenthing like that, i dont want to go anymore deep or philosophical (i've done so alredy =S)

Give your opinions please, whatever they are :rolleyes:
 
FFH

FFH

Veteran Member
Everything from the smallest atom to the largest star denotes that there is a Being more intelligent than us. All things were created by a more intelligent being than any man on earth. Our knowledge is nothing compared to this Being. We are so dependent on this Being every day. If the Earth is not perfectly balanced it would begin to shake violently and the oceans would cover the land and we would all drown. Consider high tide and low tide. The moon has just enough of a gravitational pull that it raises and lowers the ocean just enough to aggitate it against the sand in order to cleanse it and keep it from being stagnant. And the salt content in the ocean is just enough to keep it clean and yet life can still live in it. The balance of all things on earth is so delicate. This could not happen by chance. The Sun is just the right distance from the Earth and it is also just the right temperature. This is not chance. This is a design by a higher Being than ourselves...
 
stemann

stemann

Time Bandit
Everything from the smallest atom to the largest star denotes that there is a Being more intelligent than us.
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Oh my gosh!!!!!!! You're right!!!!!!!!!!! It would be such a giant coincidence for the earth to be EXACTLY the right distance from the sun for us to live on it!!!!!!! THEREFORE GOD LOVES ME!!!!!!!!!!!! I AM SAVED!!!!!!!!!! REPENT!!!!!!

Sorry, typo. I meant: Mars is not the right distance from the sun. What about all the potential beings that could have lived there were it not for the cruel God that placed it too far away from the sun?????? ditto all the other planets, etc., etc., until the day I die (and go to hell arg)

UTAH ROCKS!!!!
 
Fatmop

Fatmop

Active Member
Anyways, my theory is that big bang will happen again and again, doing and undoing until its perfect and simple, matter and antimatter anihilating each other whit no "disturbance" forever.
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My opinion is that that is unfounded assumption, almost as much as Faith_is_an_Assurance's inane little post.
 
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randb

Member
I dont agree.... Even the extreme temperatures on Mars can support life!!!!! The max temp on Mars is around 27 C, while them min is around -125 C (?). And it is was experimentally proven that bacteria can survive on the moon for several months (31 months), where there is no atmosphere....



FFH said:
Everything from the smallest atom to the largest star denotes that there is a Being more intelligent than us. All things were created by a more intelligent being than any man on earth. Our knowledge is nothing compared to this Being. We are so dependent on this Being every day. If the Earth is not perfectly balanced it would begin to shake violently and the oceans would cover the land and we would all drown. Consider high tide and low tide. The moon has just enough of a gravitational pull that it raises and lowers the ocean just enough to aggitate it against the sand in order to cleanse it and keep it from being stagnant. And the salt content in the ocean is just enough to keep it clean and yet life can still live in it. The balance of all things on earth is so delicate. This could not happen by chance. The Sun is just the right distance from the Earth and it is also just the right temperature. This is not chance. This is a design by a higher Being than ourselves...
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Cowrebellion

New Member
The Sun is just the right distance from the Earth and it is also just the right temperature. This is not chance. This is a design by a higher Being than ourselves...
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This is not a chance? Well I'm afraid you are quite wrong, first off there are a few planets that have been observed in the habitable zone surrounding distance stars with masses comprobable to Earth.

As for the big bang. It is quite likely that it occured many many times before the "current" universe as we know it was formed.
 
JerryL

JerryL

Well-Known Member
As for the big bang. It is quite likely that it occured many many times before the "current" universe as we know it was formed.
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Let's see the math for "quite likely".
 
Dayv

Dayv

Member
FFH, what exactly are you talking about? All of your examples of 'balance' are...uninformed. The earth doesn't shake violently because of gravity and...well I'm not entirely sure what would cause it to shake violently in the first place. The moon does cause the tides, yes, but how exactly do the tides cleanse the ocean? And the ocean has a current from the changing tempurates, not because of the moon, it would never become stagnant. And salt keeps the ocean clean? I thought the tides were cleansing the ocean? and clean from what exactly? There are an overwelming number of microrganisms in the ocean (all of which are vital to all forms of life). And life in the ocean survives inspite of the salt because that's the world they evolved on. Read a book...science book, that is.

Sorry...uh, yeah, cycle, sounds good, everything else in nature seems to follow a cycle, I've heard similar theories, although some do not involve a 'big bang' at all, just an expantion, shrinking cycle.
 
Ibrahim Al-Amin

Ibrahim Al-Amin

Member
The Quran references the Big Bang.

"Have not those who disbelieved known that the heavens and the earth were one connected entity, and then we separated them?" 21:30
 
Fade

Fade

The Great Master Bates
Ibrahim Al-Amin said:
The Quran references the Big Bang.

"Have not those who disbelieved known that the heavens and the earth were one connected entity, and then we separated them?" 21:30
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No it doesn't.
 
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Steve

Active Member
Cowrebellion said:
It is quite likely that it occured many many times before the "current" universe as we know it was formed.
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:bonk: Thats a joke right? They have enough trouble trying to explain how it can answer for the universe we have today, let alone a fairy-tale many befor this one.
 
Fade

Fade

The Great Master Bates
Steve said:
:bonk: Thats a joke right? They have enough trouble trying to explain how it can answer for the universe we have today, let alone a fairy-tale many befor this one.
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'They' only have trouble explaining it to people who refuse to accept anything that contradicts what they were brought up to believe. If one were to remove the core [mind numbingly complex] physics and mathematics from the explanation then it becomes pretty straightforward to explain.
 
JerryL

JerryL

Well-Known Member
I thought of posting this in the "lastest" big bang thread but its 18 pages and lost interest. So here it goes i hope you all know what antimatter and how its created (along whit matter). So theres this sub-theory of big bang that states that at the beginning there was this "concentration of stuff", whit matter and antimatter destroying each other all the time making energy and then making matter and antimatter again, and again, and again, more simple, equal ammounts of black and white making grey then spliting and doing it again, but then somenthing disturbed the balance and the "big bang" created few more matter than anti matter and so on that there was this lapse when there was no more antimatter and the residual matter made formed the universe.
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Nutrinos
 
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Cowrebellion

New Member
Let's see the math for "quite likely".
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Well you don't really need maths for it. Think about it carefully. The big bang occurred and the odds of the whole thing going right and forming a universe as we know it that didn't just instantly collapse etc. is unbelievably small anyway let alone the chance that it happened ont the first time a big bang occurred. Besides if you believe the big bang will reverse itself one day and the universe will end they why should another big bang not occur? Out whole universe as we know it is balanced and if certain fundamental constants were not as they are then things would be hell here.
 
JerryL

JerryL

Well-Known Member
Well you don't really need maths for it. Think about it carefully. The big bang occurred and the odds of the whole thing going right and forming a universe as we know it that didn't just instantly collapse etc. is unbelievably small anyway let alone the chance that it happened ont the first time a big bang occurred. [/qoute] Ok. Thought carefully. Have no idea what the variables would be... so as I said before "let's see the math".

Besides if you believe the big bang will reverse itself one day and the universe will end they why should another big bang not occur? Out whole universe as we know it is balanced and if certain fundamental constants were not as they are then things would be hell here.
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I don't know that another big bang will not occur. I don't know that it will. I certainly don't dispute that it did, but I do dispute that you have a valid reason to assert that it did.
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Valjean

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The Earth does wobble -- google "precession."

The ocean's salinity has varied greatly over the aeons, and if salt were somehow necessary to keep the ocean salubrious, how do the planet's great fresh water bodies manage it?

Life evolves to fit and, in some ways maintain existing conditions, not the other way around.
 
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