Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
I think I could find it in my heart to be grateful to god if he could keep all the uptight religious people away from me for eternity.
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Theists: If You Knew You Were Going to Hell
- Thread starter The Sum of Awe
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Koldo
Outstanding Member
Why do you harbor unconditional love for god?
Koldo
Outstanding Member
I must be pretty deranged, then.
Yup. I worship a deity that, as judged by human standards, is malevolent, sadistic, and violent. If I ended up in their "special place" they would absolutely torture me. I would expect nothing less. The gods are what they are, and I honor them regardless of whether or not their nature is judged adversarial to human needs and wants. There is beauty and wisdom and power in all things, not merely the things humans happen to find pleasant.
Why do you worship that kind of god?
underthesun
Terrible with Titles
See, I think of love less as blind and more as... extreme sunlight. Love can blind you from certain faults at times, especially when you're looking at it directly, but certain actions can certainly block the sunlight, either for moments or for eternity, and then you're able to see again. I don't think your average person is ever so in love that they'll be completely blind to any and all wrongdoings of the individual they love; most people have lines that can't be crossed.
I, for instance, would certainly have a line that can't be crossed with a deity, and eternal banishment to eternal suffering crosses that line. Any deity who thinks that what I have done in my life (let's even say only as of this moment in time) is deserving of that kind of punishment is a deity I am not capable of loving. Not even the sun could blind me from that cruelty, and not even the sun could blind this deity into thinking his actions are out of love. You don't force those you love to eternally suffer; you just don't.
I think love is conditional in this regard, both on my side and on the deity's side. You say you love your god unconditionally, but it seems to me that he only loves you conditionally--only if you live your life exactly as he wants you to. Live it differently, and he sends you eternally to Hell, something I don't think someone unconditionally loving would be capable of.
And I really do not understand this 'you can make Hell your Heaven' thing you're talking about. Especially in regards to the question posed in this thread.
Me Myself
Back to my username
Bt all the ultight religious guys wich were wrong would be in there
Looking at the bright side, probably all the uptight religious gals too, which by this point have understood uptightness served them for nothing.