prophet muhammad in bible

Prophet muhammed in bible:
İn quran, christians and jewish peoble are called ‘’ehl i kitab’’. That means ‘’the ones who are given a book’’ Allah says that the christians and jews know the aspects of the last prophet as they know their own childs ; and that their books tell the aspects of the last prophet in detail. Truly, at the 6th century many christian and jewish scholars were expecting a prophet to come. For example: prophet muhammed send a letter to the governor of egypt, Mukavkıs, to invite him to islam. Mukavkıs answered that letter and he said in that letter that he already knew that the arrival of a prophet is near but that he was expecting that prophet to come to Damascus( Mukavkıs was a christian governor by the way)

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Deutronomy chapter 33
And he said,

The LORD came from Si'nai,
and rose up from Se'ir unto them;
he shined forth from mount Paran,
and he came with ten thousands of saints:
with flames at his right hand
Mount Sinai is where Moses spoke with god. The title of moses in islam is: ‘’Kelimullah’’. That means ‘’the one who god have spoken with’’
Se’ir is the name of a mountain which is in the damascus region of Roman Empire. Nazareth( birth place of Jesus) is on that region.Also: The Dictionary of the Bible (63d Edition) has a number of meanings given to Seir. Those include a Horite Clan, which lived during biblical times, one of the points that define Judea, and a district south of the Dead Sea. The fourth definition (page 894) says it is probably the mountainous district of East Arabia, the Edomites. According to some scholars this is probably a reference to Prophet Job. He was an Edomite who descended from Esau who is the brother of Jacob the son of Isaac.
Paran is an old name of Mecca region. Mecca is the birth place of prophet muhammed.
Many biblical literature references, especially the Dictionary of the Bible, claim that Paran is the inland part of Sinai or (and this shows the lack of certainty) the western slopes of the Sinai Peninsula. Where in fact the true meaning of Paran is simply the Arabian Peninsula. This is justified in the Bible itself. Referring back to the book of Genesis, particularly chapter 21 verses 21, it says of Prophet Ishmael, “And he (Ishmael) dwelt in the wilderness of Paran: and his mother (Hagar) took him a wife out of the land of EgyptIt is very well known, that the Jews and Arabs are considered cousins because Ishmael is regarded as the Grandfather of the Arabs; they relate to Abraham through, his son, Ishmael. It is very well known that they settled in Arabia and that the center of Arabia is Mecca from which Prophet Muhammad was later to be raised. So Paran, according to the Bible itself and according to the facts of history, falls around Mecca and not Sinai. In the Book of Deuteronomy in chapter 33 verses 2, discusses three different places. The first, Sinai, the second is Seir, and then the third is Paran. If Paran is referring to Sinai then it’s redundant. It would be a useless and senseless repetition. Sinai has already been mentioned and so it refers to a third place- and that third place can only be the other option- Mecca. We find that the Bible supports this point because, for example in Genesis in chapter 14 verses 6 and in Moses’ Book of Numbers chapter 10 verses 12, talk in such a way that there is a distinction between the wilderness of Sinai and the wilderness of Paran. So, they are not the same place. Furthermore, here’s a very simple and logical reason: What major prophet has come or was sent in the wilderness of Sinai after Moses? The answer is none. The manifestation of history is that this prophecy is not applicable to any of the Israelite prophets.
The term Paran itself, as it appears in English translations of the Bible is the equivalent to the sound of the letter ph, in Arabic, Pharan. For example, Palestine translates to Philistine in the Arabic language converting the p sound to an ph sound. If you really analyze the term Pharan, according to some scholars, comes from the Arabic word Pharran. In Arabic, Pharran means the two runaways. The reason being is that when Hagar, the wife of Abraham, and her son Ishmael were placed in the wilderness of Paran, some people thought that they were runaways from their family. That is possibly why that area was named after them. In Hebrew, Al-pharan means sanctuary and this is consistent again because that was their sanctuary. We find that the Qur'an describes the Kaabah in Mecca as a house of peace and sanctuary. Whichever meaning is taken is very consistent with the fact that Paran is actually Mecca.
Then GOD Almighty promised Ishmael that from him, He will increase his numbers and make from him a great nation, the Arab nation; "And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation. (From the NIV Bible, Genesis 17:20)"
The Ishmaelites were Arabs and not Egyptians. They came from the Arabian desert; "As they sat down to eat their meal, they looked up and saw a caravan of Ishmaelites coming from Gilead. Their camels were loaded with spices, balm and myrrh, and they were on their way to take them down to Egypt. (From the NIV Bible, Genesis 37:25)" "take them down to Egypt" means taking them to the land of Egypt. It doesn't mean taking them toward the south direction. When for instance you say "my house is right down the street", it doesn't mean the house is south of the street. The house could be on the north side. The sentence means that the house is on the street, or will be found if the person walks in the path that you lead him to. The point however in the above Verse is that the Ishmaelites were not from Egypt. They came from another land. They had loaded camels and they were heading to Egypt. Arabs used to rely heavily on camels for traveling. And as we've seen from the above Verses regarding Ishmael and his Mother (Hagar) living in the desert of Paran in the South, this clearly proves to us that the desert of Paran is located in Arabia and not in Egypt, since the Ishmaelites are not Egyptians.
A third important reason is we find for hundreds of years many of the ancient Arab geographers have always used the term Pharan to refer to Mecca. An old reference called the Mujham El Beldan, uses the term Pharan to refer to Mecca. This is not an invention; the term was definitely traditionally used for hundreds of years.
The fourth reason is in history and tradition; hundreds of years even before Muhammad was born (no one can say that this is concocted just to prove his prophet-hood) we find that there are clear traditions of the Arabs descending from Ishmael refer to him as their Grandfather. There are many relics that refer to Prophet Abraham and his son Ishmael who was also regarded as a prophet. In fact, we find that one of the relics is the Kaabah itself, as the Qur'an refers to it, was built originally by Prophet Abraham with the help of his son Ishmael. Many traditions of the pre-islam arab religion(which is a mixture of paganism and the teachings of prophet Abraham) were originated from Prophet abaraham and his son ismael. There were also peoble who only believe in the teachings of abaraham and ismael, not believing in the arabic pagan gods. These peoble were called ‘’Hanif’’

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John 14:15-16: And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may be with you for ever,
John 14:26 26 But the Comforter (Counselor, Helper, Intercessor, Advocate, Strengthener, Standby), the Holy Spirit, Whom the Father will send in My name [in My place, to represent Me and act on My behalf], He will teach you all things. And He will cause you to recall (will remind you of, bring to your remembrance) everything I have told you.
John 16:7-14:
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is expedient for you that I go away, for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send Him unto you.
8 And when He is come, He will reprove the world concerning sin, and concerning righteousness, and concerning judgment:
9 concerning sin, because they believe not in Me;
10 concerning righteousness, because I go to My Father and ye see Me no more;
11 concerning judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
12 “I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 However when He, the Spirit of Truth, is come, He will guide you into all truth; for He shall not speak from Himself, but whatsoever He shall hear, that shall He speak; and He will show you things to come.
14 He shall glorify Me, for He shall receive of Mine, and shall show it unto you.
Before we start some things must be clarified. One is that, christians and jews had translated their books(especially the new testament) into many languages. Through these translations, they also translated the special names which belong to specific people. Mother language of the jesus was hebrew. But, among four bible copies that are considered ‘’right’’ on the counsil of nicea, three were written in greek language. ‘’The comforter’’ on the above verses is tranlated into english from greek copies. On that copies the one who is called comforter is written as ‘’paracletos’’ .
Some scholars believe that what Jesus (peace be upon him) said in his own Aramaic tongue in these verses represents more closely the Greek word "Periklytos" which means the admirable or glorified one. This word corresponds exactly to the Arabic word "Muhammad" which also means the "admired one" or "glorified one." In other words, "Periklytos" is "Muhammad" in Greek. There are several similar documented cases of similar word substitution in the Bible. It is also quite possible that both words were contained in the original text but were dropped by a copyist because of the ancient custom of writing words closely packed, with no spaces in-between them. In such a case the original reading would have been: "and He will give you another comforter(Parakletos), the admirable one(Periklytos)"
"The 'Paraclete' does not signify either 'consoler' or 'advocate'; in truth, it is not a classical word at all. The Greek orthography of the word is Paraklytos which in ecclesiastical literature is made to mean 'one called to aid, advocate, intercessor' (Dict. Grec.-Francais, by Alexandre). One need not profess to be a Greek scholar to know that the Greek word for 'comforter or consoler' is not 'Paraclytos' but 'Paracalon'. I have no Greek version of the Septuagint with me, but I remember perfectly well that the Hebrew word for 'comforter' (mnahem) in the Lamentations of Jeremiah (I. 2, 9, 16, 17, 21, etc.) is translated into Parakaloon, from the verb Parakaloo, which means to call to, invite, exhort, console, pray, invoke. It should be noticed that there is a long alpha vowel after the consonant kappa in the 'Paracalon' which does not exist in the 'Paraclytos.' In the phrase (He who consoles us in all our afflictions) 'paracalon' and not 'Paraclytos' is used. (I exhort, or invite, thee to work). Many other examples can be cited here. There is another Greek word for comforter or consoler, i.e. "Parygorytys' from 'I console'.....The proper Greek term for 'advocate' is Sunegorus and for 'intercessor' or 'mediator' Meditea" (Muhammad in the Bible, Prof. Abdul-`Ahad Dawud, pp. 208-209)
Usage of the Word ‘’spirit’’ in bible:
Ezekiel 37:12Therefore prophesy and say to them: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: My people, I am going to open your graves and bring you up from them; I will bring you back to the land of Israel. 13 Then you, my people, will know that I am the Lord, when I open your graves and bring you up from them. 14 I will put my Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land. Then you will know that I the Lord have spoken, and I have done it, declares the Lord.’”
1John 4

1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but prove the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: and every spirit that confesseth not Jesus is not of God: and this is the i of the antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it cometh; and now it is in the world already.
As we see, the Word ‘’spirit’’ was used in many ways, sometimes to define humans.
And also, that the jesus said in the above verses ‘’you’’ does nat necessarily means that the apostles around them. Let us look at the matthew 26:64: Jesus said unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Henceforth ye shall see the Son of man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven.’’ Jews which heard that Word of jesus did not actually saw them coming from heavens on clouds to earth. So he said that to the people who will live near the time of apocalcyps(doom day). Because he will come to earth again, before the doom day.

The Holy Ghost was already with them:

In the above verses we read "if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you." The comforter can not be the Holy Ghost because the Holy Ghost (according to the Bible) was "with" them already (and even quite active) long before the coming of Jesus (peace be upon him) himself and then throughout his ministry. Read for example:
"And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee." (Luke 1:35)
"And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost" (Luke 1:41)
"And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying," (Luke 1:67)
"And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him." (Luke 2:25)
Selective translation: Jesus (peace be upon him) too is a Paraclete:

The word "Paraclete" is applied to Jesus (peace be upon him) himself in 1 John 2:1
"My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate(parakletos) with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous." (1 John 2:1)
Notice how the translators have managed to translate this exact same word one way (advocate) in reference to Jesus (peace be upon him) and another (comforter) with regard to the coming "parakletos." Why would they want to do such a thing? The reason is that the translators did not want the Christians, after reading
"we have an advocate(parakletos) with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous"
to then read
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another advocate(parakletos)."
Can we see why this would make them nervous?

"Another" Paraclete:

Now go back to John 14:16 and notice the words "another Paraclete." If the comforter is the Holy Ghost then how many Holy Ghost's are there? The word "another" is significant. We have already seen how this term is applied to Jesus (peace be upon him) himself. In English, "another" may mean "One more of the same kind" or "one more of a different kind." If the latter were the one intended then the current Christian interpretation might bear some merit. However, if "One more of the same kind" was what was intended then this is positive proof that the coming Paraclete would be just like Jesus (peace be upon him), a human being and a prophet, not a ghost. The actual Greek word used was the word "allon" which is the masculine accusative form of "allos" {al'-los}: "Another of the SAME kind." The Greek word for "another of a different kind" is "heteros" {het'-er-os}.
"He" not "It":
Notice the use of "he" when referring to the Paraclete and not "it." If we read John 16:13, we will find no less than SEVEN occurrences of the masculine pronoun "He" and "Himself." There is not another verse in the 66 books of the Protestant Bible or the seventy three books of the Catholic Bible which contains seven masculine pronouns, or seven feminine pronouns, or even seven neuter genders. So many masculine pronouns ill befits a ghost, holy or otherwise. The word "Spirit" (Greek, pneu'ma), is of a neutral gender and is always referred to by the pronoun "it."
He will guide you into all truth:

In the above verses Jesus (peace be upon him) is quoted as saying "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth." What does Jesus (peace be upon him) mean by "ye cannot bear them now"? If we were to read the Bible, we would find many verses throughout the Bible wherein Jesus (peace be upon him) bemoans the lack of understanding he was constantly greeted with from his disciples throughout his ministry:
"And he(Jesus) saith unto them(the disciples).....O ye of little faith." (Matthew 8:26)
"...and (Jesus) said unto him(Peter), O thou of little faith." (Matthew 14:31)
"he (Jesus) said unto them(the disciples), O ye of little faith." (Matthew 16:8)
"And he(Jesus) said unto them(the disciples), Where is your faith?" (Luke 8:25)
Notice that these are not common Jews who he is saying these words to, but his own elect disciples. The Bible vividly illustrates how he is constantly going out of his way to simplify matters for them and to speak to them as one speaks to little children. However, even at that, they still misunderstand. He is finally driven to frustration and made to say:
"And Jesus said, Are ye even yet without understanding?" (Matthew 15:16)
and "And Jesus answering said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you, and suffer you?" (Luke 9:41)

We are even told that his own people did not accept him:

"He came unto his own, and his own received him not." (John 1:11)
Jesus (peace be upon him) had "all truth," but he could not give it to them because they were not fit to receive it. Therefore, he told them that another would come after him who shall guide them into "all truth" which they could not receive from him. He tells us that the one who will come will "teach you all things." This one who will guide them into "all truth" is described as "The spirit of truth." We have already seen how the word "spirit" in the Bible is synonymous with the word "Prophet." Muhammad (peace be upon him), even before he became the prophet of Islam was known among his people as "Al-sadik Al-amin," which means "The truthful, the trustworthy." Thus, it becomes apparent that Muhammad was indeed "the spirit of truth." Since the departure of Jesus (peace be upon him) and to this day, the "Holy Ghost" has not taught mankind a single new truth not revealed by Jesus (peace be upon him) himself.
It is important to notice the words "ALL truth" and "MANY things." "Many" and "All" means more than one. What new and innovative teachings has the Holy Ghost given mankind which were not taught by Jesus (peace be upon him)?
Sin, righteousness, and error:

The coming Paraclete, we are told, will demonstrate the error of the world regarding sin, righteousness, and judgment "he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment." This is indeed what Muhammad (peace be upon him) did. He came to the world to show them how they had been misguided in "sin" by believing that mankind can inherit sin (see last quarter of chapter one, and Ezekiel 18:19-20) and that someone's sin can be forgiven by the sacrifice of others. He also showed them how they had been misguided in "righteousness" by believing that a righteous person is one who has "faith" in the crucifixion and does nothing else (Romans 3:28), or who believes that another man's death will make him a righteous person (Romans 5:19). And they were misguided in "judgment" by believing that they will be judged by "faith" and other people's deeds and not their own deeds (Mark 16:16), or that God's "judgment" was to punish all mankind for the sin of one man (Romans 5:16, 5:18).
Muhammad (peace be upon him) taught that the unscrupulous had altered the words of Jesus (peace be upon him). He taught that no one will be held accountable by God for anyone else's sin. He emphasized that God has made this a life of work and the next life one of reward and no work. He also revealed that mankind will be judged individually according to their own individual faith and actions and no one else's.
That he may abide with you for ever:

In these verses, Jesus (peace be upon him) is quoted as saying that the coming Paraclete will "abide with you forever." What does he mean by this? In order to understand this statement, let us read
"Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death. Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death. Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself? Jesus answered, If I honor myself, my honor is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God: Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying." (John 8:51-55)
and also
"And I (Jesus) give unto them (the believers) eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." (John 10:28)
and "and my servant David [shall be] their prince forever." (Ezekiel 37:25).
and "The king shall joy in thy strength, O LORD ... He asked life of thee, [and] thou gavest [it] him, [even] length of days for ever and ever." (Psalm 21:1-4)
Jesus (peace be upon him) is quoted many times in the Bible as telling his followers that they will never taste death. However, there is not a single one of them alive to this day. Was he lying? Of course not! As seen above, Jesus' (peace be upon him) was not telling mankind that his followers would never grow old nor die, rather he was speaking about their second life in the hereafter. He was telling them that the life that we hold so dear and spend so much time fretting over and striving to improve is all but insignificant if compared to the true life, the afterlife. So much so that life and death on this earth is unworthy of consideration. Everything in his estimation revolved around an eternal striving for the reward of the afterlife and this was the yardstick by which all matters were to be measured.
In a similar manner, when king David is described as being a prince forever, this did not mean that he would never die but remain immortal for ever and ever as a prince to Israel. Rather, his teachings, name, and guidance shall remain as a shining beacon to mankind even after his death. In this manner, Jesus (peace be upon him) lives among us through his faith and teachings, prophet Abraham (peace be upon him) lives on among them and us through his faith and teachings, and so too, the coming Paraclete will live eternally with us through his faith and teachings.
Very important: The Paracletos will be the last prophet, because he will "abide with you forever" and "he will guide you into all truth" (Greek "into the whole truth") and "he shall teach you all things," so there will be no need for any further prophets. In the Qur'an we read:

"Muhammad is not the father of any man among you, but he is the messenger of Allah and the Seal of the Prophets; and Allah is Aware of all things." (The noble Qur'an, , al-Ahzab(33):40)

And "This day have I (God) perfected your religion for you (mankind) and completed My favor unto you, and have chosen for you as religion Islam(the submission)." (The noble Qur'an, al-Maidah(5):3)

So the religion of Islam is the last message to mankind and it, as well as the Qur'an, will abide with them forever

He shall not speak of himself:

"For he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, [that] shall he speak:" This too is an interesting statement. It reminds us of the verses of Deuteronomy 18:18-19 which shall be discussed soon, specifically:
" I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, [that] whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require [it] of him." (Deuteronomy 18:18-19)
It is also interesting to read the words of the Qur'an:
"Nor does he (Muhammad) speak of his own desire. It is but an Inspiration that is inspired [unto him]" (The noble Qur'an, Al-Najm(53):3-4)
He shall bring all things into your remembrance:
The prophesy of this coming Paraclete requires that he shall remind mankind of the words of Jesus. Jesus is speaking here not to those who disbelieved, but to his own followers. He is telling his followers that the Paraclete shall "remind" them of the message of Jesus. However, if the followers of Jesus already know and remember all that Jesus taught then how shall the Paraclete "remind"
them of something which they already remember? Obviously, the coming Paraclete shall come in a time when the teachings of Jesus have been forgotten and require one to "remind" Jesus' followers of them. Indeed, the Qur'an does in fact confirm this same situation. We read:
"And from those who said: "We are Christians," We took their covenant, but they forgot a good part of the message which was sent to them. Therefore We have stirred up enmity and hatred among them till the Day of Resurrection, and Allah will inform them of what they used to do. O people of the Scripture! Now has Our messenger (Muhammad) come to you, explaining to you much of that which you used to hide in the Scripture, and forgiving much. Indeed, there has come to you a light from Allah and a plain Scripture. Wherewith Allah guides him who seeks His good pleasure unto paths of peace. He brings them out of darkness by His will into light, and guides them to a straight path." (The noble Qur'an, Al-Maidah(5):14-16)
It is further important to note that one of the names of the Qur'an is "Al-Thikr" (The Reminder). For example:
"Verily, it is We who have sent down 'The Reminder' and it is We who shall preserve it" (The noble Qur'an, Al-Hijr(15):9)

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Matthew (21:43) “Therefore say I unto you, the kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.”
İn the bible, the israilites and the ishmaelites are the ones who are called ‘’a great nation’’
Genesis (17:20):” As for Ishmael, I am heeding you: I hereby bless him. I will make him fertile and will multiply him exceedingly. He shall become the father of twelve chieftains, and I will make of him a great nation.”
Arabs( at least the quarysh clan which is the tribe of prophet muhammad) are descendants of İsmael. So if jesus said that the kingdom of god was taken from the jews, it would be natural to think that it will be given to arabs. Actually this was a main cause of hostility of jews towards prophet muhammad on these days. Jews were expecting the prophet will come among them(actually they are still waiting today) and when prophet muhammad said that he is the last prophet, jews couldnt stand a non-jew prophet and become enemies of him.

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IN Isaiah 41: 1-20 verses, it is told that a person will come with a new worship and he will give this worship to the people of deserts and the islands. This description fits the prophet muahmmad very much. The new worship might be ‘’namaz(salah)’’ that muslims do 5 times a day.
On the same book, it is said that this person which will come in future, will live in the land that Kaidar has lived. Kaidar bin ismael is one of the ascendants of prophet muhammad.
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Matthew 21:42-44: Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, The same was made the head of the corner; This was from the Lord, And it is marvelous in our eyes?
43Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken away from you, and shall be given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. 44And he that falleth on this stone shall be broken to pieces: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will scatter him as dust
Christian priests/scholars say that ‘’the stone’’ told on the above verses is jesus’ himself. But when we look at the sentences’ itself we see very easily that jesus is talking about an other person, not himself.
Also, in the christian belief jesus was killed by jews. But in the above verses, jesus says that the rock will broke the ones who fall onto it and the ones who it falls over, into pieces. Jesus did not broke his enemies into pieces. He was(in chirstian belief) killed by them. But prophet muhammad, as a result of years of struggle, became victorius over his enemies. Also, jesus said a lot of times that he did not came to rule…
Prophet muhammad has a hadith like that(hadith are the words of the prophet): me and the other prophets can be thought like this: a great person has build a wonderful building but left a corner of it empty. The ones who saw the building were amazed by its beauty but they noticed the empty space. İ was send to fill that empty corner and the prophethood ends with me…
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Isaiah's vision: He foretold the story of "Al-alak" that is in the Noble Quran about Muhammad:

"And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which [men] deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, [I pray thee]: and he saith, I cannot; for it [is] sealed: And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, [I pray thee]: and he saith, I am not learned. Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near [me] with their mouth, and with their lips do honor me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men: Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvelous work among this people, [even] a marvelous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise [men] shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid. Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD, and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who seeth us? and who knoweth us? Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding? [Is] it not yet a very little while, and Lebanon shall be turned into a fruitful field, and the fruitful field shall be esteemed as a forest? And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness." (Isaiah 29:11-18)

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was illiterate. His entire life he never learned to read nor write. The exact circumstances of this first revelation were as follows: It was the habit of Muhammad (peace be upon him) to frequently remove himself from the midst of his fellow Arabs and their heathenistic actions and spend many days secluded in the cave of "Hiraa" in the mountains of Makkah where he would pray to God according to the religion of Abraham (peace be upon him). After many years of this, and having reached the age of forty (610AD), the angel Gabriel suddenly appeared before him and ordered him to "Iqra!" (read, recite, repeat, proclaim). Muhammad (peace be upon him), in his terror thought he was being asked to read, so he stammered: "I am unlettered." The angel Gabriel again ordered him to "Iqra!" Muhammad (peace be upon him) again replied: "I am unlettered." The angel Gabriel now took a firm hold of him and commanded him "Iqraa in the name of Allah who created!". Now Muhammad (peace be upon him) began to understand that he was not being asked to read, but to recite, to repeat. He began to repeat after him, and Gabriel revealed to him the first verses of the Qur'an, those at the beginning of the chapter of Al-Alak(96):

"Read(Iqraa): In the name of your Lord who created, Created man from a clot. Read(Iqraa): And your Lord is the Most Bounteous, Who teaches by the pen, Teaches man that which he knew not." (The noble Qur'an, Al-Alak(96):1-5)

As mentioned above, the actual word angel Gabriel used to address Muhammad (peace be upon him) was the Arabic word "Iqra." It is derived from the Arabic root word "qara". However, if we were to go back to the original Hebrew form of the verses of Isaiah 29:11, we would find that the actual word which is translated into English as "Read this [I pray thee]" is the Hebrew word qara', {kaw-raw'}. Is it not an amazing coincidence that the Hebrew text used not only a word with the same meaning, but the exact same word itself ?

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Interpretation of the dream of Nebuchadnezzar by Daniel:
31 Thou, O king, sawest, and, behold, a great image. This image, which was mighty, and whose brightness was excellent, stood before thee; and the aspect thereof was terrible.

32 As for this image, its head was of fine gold, its breast and its arms of silver, its belly and its thighs of brass,

33 its legs of iron, its feet part of iron, and part of clay.

34 Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon its feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them in pieces.

35 Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken in pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshing-floors; and the wind carried them away, so that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.

36 This is the dream; and we will tell the interpretation thereof before the king.

37 Thou, O king, art king of kings, unto whom the God of heaven hath given the kingdom, the power, and the strength, and the glory;

38 and wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the birds of the heavens hath he given into thy hand, and hath made thee to rule over them all: thou art the head of gold.

39 And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee; and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.

40 And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron, forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things; and as iron that crusheth all these, shall it break in pieces and crush.

41 And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.

42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.43 And whereas thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men; but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron doth not mingle with clay.

44 And in the days of those kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall the sovereignty thereof be left to another people; but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that a stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.
That dream actually came to life step by step:

After Nebuchadnezzar, Meds have come. Meds were weaker than their predecessors; ‘’keldani’’. After Meds, Kiyaniyyan civilization has been founded. Kiyaniyyan was a bit stronger, they took the Babylon at the time of king Keyhusrev. Then came Alexander the Great which conquered all Persia. His government was symbolized as iron in the Nebuchadnezzar’s dream, because no one could stand against him. Alexander, before his death, give many of his commanders a small part of his vast empire. So, little states emerged on the lands of his empire. These little states struggled against each other until the time ‘’Sasani’’ state. Sasani state lasted for a time, being sometimes strong and sometimes weak. At the time of the Sasani King ‘’Nuşirevan’’ Prophet muhammad was born. And all these lands came under the command of islam. And they still are…

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What outhouse wrote. Plus you forgot to mention that sexay mohammed was supposedly mentioned in the sexiest songs of the TaNaKh.

Also worth noting that place names in Biblical Hebrew cannot be derived from Arabic, since Arabic postdates Biblical Hebrew....

Flankerl said:

What outhouse wrote. Plus you forgot to mention that sexay mohammed was supposedly mentioned in the sexiest songs of the TaNaKh.

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I would have posted a picture of me wearing a thawb and kufiya while donning an epic beard and imported manly Arabian chest hair but I fear it is too steamy for this cold climate forum

How do you know that Arabic postdates biblical Hebrew?

Arabs are considered to be descendants of Abraham's son Ishmael so must at least have been coexistent with the son's of Isaac.

seeking4truth said:

How do you know that Arabic postdates biblical Hebrew?

Arabs are considered to be descendants of Abraham's son Ishmael so must at least have been coexistent with the son's of Isaac.

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Classical Arabic, the language in which the Quran is written, dates to about the fourth or fifth century CE, around 1400-1500 years after the earliest example found of Biblical Hebrew. As far as I know, the oldest inscription of Old Arabian, the language from which Classical Arabic descends, is from the fourth century BCE, a good 700 years later than the earliest Biblical Hebrew, to say nothing of the proto-Hebrew which must have predated Biblical Hebrew.

Are you speaking of written language only?

seeking4truth said:

Are you speaking of written language only?

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Written is what we have evidence for; but in general, the presumption is that Old Arabian as an organized language postdates Nabatean, the Semitic language whose alphabet is the ancestor of the Arabic alphabet, and which effectively died out under Roman rule. Presumably, assorted spoken Bedouin dialects that formed the core of Old Arabian are either of similar age or slightly predate Nabatean. But even if so, the language would still postdate Biblical Hebrew by a significant amount of time.