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Denying prasad because of meat?

eggyolk

Member
How does one go about refusing to eat meat that is offered as sanctified food when it is offered? This is regarded as food blessed by the God and should not be refused so besides politely explaining that you do not eat it, what happens if you are disrespecting a religion by doing so?
 

eggyolk

Member
मैत्रावरुणिः;3570059 said:
Nothing happens. No fatwas. No excommunication. Nothing, really. The person goes on with his/her day.

I don't know what your title means so I am going to call you troll because that's what you resemble.

But for any others who would like to contribute here is a passage that I think relates to the issue that I originally posted.

"According to Islamic Law there are no grounds upon which one can argue that animals should not be killed for food. The Islamic legal opinion on this issue is based on clear Qur'anic verses. Muslims are not only prohibited from eating certain food, but also may not choose to prohibit themselves food that is allowed by Islam. Accordingly vegetarianism is not permitted unless on grounds such as unavailability or medical necessity. Vegetarianism is not allowed under the pretext of giving priority to the interest of animals because such decisions are God's prerogative."
 

Poeticus

| abhyAvartin |
I don't know what your title means so I am going to call you troll because that's what you resemble.

Me? Troll? LoL. Good one.

But for any others who would like to contribute here is a passage that I think relates to the issue that I originally posted.

"According to Islamic Law there are no grounds upon which one can argue that animals should not be killed for food. The Islamic legal opinion on this issue is based on clear Qur'anic verses. Muslims are not only prohibited from eating certain food, but also may not choose to prohibit themselves food that is allowed by Islam. Accordingly vegetarianism is not permitted unless on grounds such as unavailability or medical necessity. Vegetarianism is not allowed under the pretext of giving priority to the interest of animals because such decisions are God's prerogative."

Listen up: your thread title deals with "prasad", which is Hindu. I don't know how more Hindu you can get than prasādam. Yet, the above quote deals with Islamic Law. (by the way, it's plagiarism if you don't cite such long quotes...)

You didn't relate this quote back to the OP and subject matter of the thread. Which is it? Prasādam or food dealing with Islamic scripture? Either get your title changed to something else, or accept my previous answer, as it relates to your current thread title dealing with prasādam:

"Nothing happens."
 

eggyolk

Member
मैत्रावरुणिः;3570078 said:
Me? Troll? LoL. Good one.



Listen, up: your thread title deals with "prasad", which is Hindu. I don't know how more Hindu you can get than prasādam. Yet, the above quote deals with Islamic Law. (by the way, it's plagiarism if you don't cite such long quotes...)

You didn't relate this quote back to the OP and subject matter of the thread. Which is it? Prasādam or food dealing with Islamic scripture? Either get your title changed to something else, or accept my previous answer, as it relates to your current thread title dealing with prasādam:

"Nothing happens."

I got prasadam from On religious Sikh festivals, including Hola Mohalla and Vaisakhi, at the Gurdwara of Hazur Sahib, Fatehgarh Sahib and many other Sikh Gurdwaras, jhatka meat is offered as "mahaprasad" to all visitors in a Gurdwara. This is regarded as food blessed by the Guru and should not be refused.

Jhatka - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


But it still relates to the Islamic post to because it's heavily frowned upon it seems to be a vegetarian or vegan Muslim.

That came from: Islamic Concern: Is Vegetarianism Un-Islamic?
 
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Poeticus

| abhyAvartin |
I got prasadam from On religious Sikh festivals, including Hola Mohalla and Vaisakhi, at the Gurdwara of Hazur Sahib, Fatehgarh Sahib and many other Sikh Gurdwaras, jhatka meat is offered as "mahaprasad" to all visitors in a Gurdwara. This is regarded as food blessed by the Guru and should not be refused.

Jhatka - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I still don't see how that deals with being extremely rude if objection of such prasādam is in order. I haven't heard of Sikhs going bonkers if temple attendees don't accept the Jhakta meat. Have you?

But it still relates to the Islamic post to because it's heavly frown upon it seems to be a vegetarian or vegan Muslim.

That came from: Islamic Concern: Is Vegetarianism Un-Islamic?

So? The dharmic notion of "prasādam" in no way bears any responsibility to what Islamic law has to say regarding vegetarianism (even if that is what Islamic law says about vegetarianism). You are bringing together two differing view points into something unnecessary.
 

eggyolk

Member
मैत्रावरुणिः;3570093 said:
I still don't see how that deals with being extremely rude if objection of such prasādam is in order. I haven't heard of Sikhs going bonkers if temple attendees don't accept the Jhakta meat. Have you?

That's what I am asking troll.

So? The dharmic notion of "prasādam" in no way bears any responsibility to what Islamic law has to say regarding vegetarianism (even if that is what Islamic law says about vegetarianism). You are bringing together two differing view points into something unnecessary.

Listen troll, in the grand scheme of things, if you are offending a religious someone by not eating their meat, is it a big deal or is it okay?

Since you display severe behavior of purposely and deliberately trying to start an argument with no substance or relevance to the topic, can you stop. You are not that important.
 

Poeticus

| abhyAvartin |
Listen troll, in the grand scheme of things, if you are offending a religious someone by not eating their meat, is it a big deal or is it okay?

And, this is coming from someone who persistently posted responses expressing his/her innate desire to have a certain BAPS member die or "burn in hell"?

Since you display severe behavior of purposely and deliberately trying to start an argument with no substance or relevance to the topic, can you stop. You are not that important.

Starting an argument? You literally posted this in religious debates: which warrants argument/debate. But, more importantly: I am not the one who is bringing together two varying theological concepts pertaining to food and consumption thereof.
 

eggyolk

Member
If I could change the title I would. I misused Prasad in the wrong context. Title should say holy or blessed food.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
No Hindu temple I know of has meat prasad, and if it did, I wouldn't go there. Refusing food is rarely taken as an insult. People have allergies, have special diets, dislike certain foods, etc. It is the person taking such food that should be insulted because the other person offered it to them.
 

eggyolk

Member
मैत्रावरुणिः;3570116 said:
And, this is coming from someone who persistently posted responses expressing his/her innate desire to have a certain BAPS member die or "burn in hell"?


Starting an argument? You literally posted this in religious debates: which warrants argument/debate. But, more importantly: I am not the one who is bringing together two varying theological concepts pertaining to food and consumption thereof.


What can I say, I do not like frauds. They don't need to wait for hell. If you claim you are a god going against gods view, you belong there according to the scripture of god. And when you are accused of raping someone by two people, it makes it worse.

You are not debating. You are trolling my posts but I am having fun. So it's all in good taste.
 

eggyolk

Member
No Hindu temple I know of has meat prasad, and if it did, I wouldn't go there. Refusing food is rarely taken as an insult. People have allergies, have special diets, dislike certain foods, etc. It is the person taking such food that should be insulted because the other person offered it to them.

Thank you for an appropriate response. I appreciate it. I have come across instances where people have been insulted for not eating mean under religious places so I was seeking some rationality in this topic.
 

Poeticus

| abhyAvartin |
You are not debating. You are trolling my posts but I am having fun. So it's all in good taste.

Look, all I'm doing is answering your questions regarding objecting prasādam as it pertains to meat.

And, I am simply stating that the Islamic quote in no way bears affinity to the Dharmic concept of prasādam because theologically you are working with two different fields. I don't know what is there to not understand...
 

eggyolk

Member
Again I clarified that I meant when I said Prasad but you probably were half way done with trolling for your next response. Breathe for at least 15 seconds before you respond to this post. You might pull something.
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
Again I clarified that I meant when I said Prasad but you probably were half way done with trolling for your next response. Breathe for at least 15 seconds before you respond to this post. You might pull something.

You need to chill.

Anyone can decide to feel offended about anything.

That being the case, I dont care if someone decides to feel offended by me refusing to take the food. I wouldnt eat meat unless my life depended on it because I am a veg.

Between supporting unnecessary slaughtering and a little guy feeling offended because he believes the world spins around him, I'll take the little offended guy.
 

eggyolk

Member
You need to chill.

Anyone can decide to feel offended about anything.

That being the case, I dont care if someone decides to feel offended by me refusing to take the food. I wouldnt eat meat unless my life depended on it because I am a veg.

Between supporting unnecessary slaughtering and a little guy feeling offended because he believes the world spins around him, I'll take the little offended guy.

I will chill when I am stopped being trolled. I am glad the other user took some advice.

I would take offending the guy too but at the end of the day the stigma is difficult to grasp and can make you feel like an outcast. If you traveled to a area that engaged in drinking heavily for example, and you had pressure to drink, religious or not, would you not feel pressure to drink?
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
I will chill when I am stopped being trolled. I am glad the other user took some advice.

I would take offending the guy too but at the end of the day the stigma is difficult to grasp and can make you feel like an outcast. If you traveled to a area that engaged in drinking heavily for example, and you had pressure to drink, religious or not, would you not feel pressure to drink?

No one has trolled you.

Maybe. I rarely give in to pressure if it goes against my values. I ve been surrounded by meat eating people and not eaten meat voluntarily once since my vegetarianism.

Temptation can always happen, but I think the moral stance is to not eat the meat.
 
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