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God and the weather.

jstinson

New Member
I have always believed that God turned the control of the Earth's weather over to Satan. Does anyone know of any text that supports or defies this theory?
 

Mark1615

Member
I have never heard of that idea before. Although, Satan has no power but what God gives him (Job 1:6-9, 12; 1 Kings 22; Revelation 4:11, etc.).
 

Popeyesays

Well-Known Member
jstinson said:
I have always believed that God turned the control of the Earth's weather over to Satan. Does anyone know of any text that supports or defies this theory?
I think the book of Job would say otherwise - check it out.

Regards,
Scott
 

Mike182

Flaming Queer
i can't think of any arguments to support that theory - do you have any?

i suppose you could argue that the Devil controlled the tsunami last year........ but that was (imo) a natural disaster
 

Popeyesays

Well-Known Member
Here's some material that directly says God controls the weather - dispute it if you like. From the King James version of the Book of Job:
"36:26 Behold, God is great, and we know him not, neither can the number of his years be searched out.
36:27 For he maketh small the drops of water: they pour down rain according to the vapour thereof: 36:28 Which the clouds do drop and distil upon man abundantly.
36:29 Also can any understand the spreadings of the clouds, or the noise of his tabernacle? 36:30 Behold, he spreadeth his light upon it, and covereth the bottom of the sea.
36:31 For by them judgeth he the people; he giveth meat in abundance.
36:32 With clouds he covereth the light; and commandeth it not to shine by the cloud that cometh betwixt.
36:33 The noise thereof sheweth concerning it, the cattle also concerning the vapour.
37:1 At this also my heart trembleth, and is moved out of his place.
37:2 Hear attentively the noise of his voice, and the sound that goeth out of his mouth.
37:3 He directeth it under the whole heaven, and his lightning unto the ends of the earth.
37:4 After it a voice roareth: he thundereth with the voice of his excellency; and he will not stay them when his voice is heard.
37:5 God thundereth marvellously with his voice; great things doeth he, which we cannot comprehend.
37:6 For he saith to the snow, Be thou on the earth; likewise to the small rain, and to the great rain of his strength.
37:7 He sealeth up the hand of every man; that all men may know his work.
37:8 Then the beasts go into dens, and remain in their places.
37:9 Out of the south cometh the whirlwind: and cold out of the north.
37:10 By the breath of God frost is given: and the breadth of the waters is straitened.
37:11 Also by watering he wearieth the thick cloud: he scattereth his bright cloud: 37:12 And it is turned round about by his counsels: that they may do whatsoever he commandeth them upon the face of the world in the earth.
37:13 He causeth it to come, whether for correction, or for his land, or for mercy.
37:14 Hearken unto this, O Job: stand still, and consider the wondrous works of God."
(King James Bible, Job)

Regards,
Scott
 

Popeyesays

Well-Known Member
Even Jesus says God controls theweather.
"5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust."
(King James Bible, Matthew)

He also says this:
"7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 7:25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
7:26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 7:27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it."
(King James Bible, Matthew)

Showing that mankind bears responsibility for what he does himself.

As a separate entity, satan does not exist. God has no partners, nor equals. Nor does God give His powers to anything. All of Creation is powerless before God.

Regards,
 

Popeyesays

Well-Known Member
Even the Book of Mormon says God controls the weather:
"NE2 15:6 And I will lay it waste; it shall not be pruned nor digged; but there shall come up briers and thorns; I will also command the clouds that they rain no rain upon it."
(LDS (Mormon), The Book of Mormon)
"HEL 11:13 O Lord, wilt thou hearken unto me, and cause that it may be done according to my words, and send forth rain upon the face of the earth, that she may bring forth her fruit, and her grain in the season of grain."
(LDS (Mormon), The Book of Mormon)
"HEL 11:17 And it came to pass that in the seventy and sixth year the Lord did turn away his anger from the people, and caused that rain should fall upon the earth, insomuch that it did bring forth her fruit in the season of her fruit. And it came to pass that it did bring forth her grain in the season of her grain."
(LDS (Mormon), The Book of Mormon)
"ETH 2:24 For behold, ye shall be as a whale in the midst of the sea; for the mountain waves shall dash upon you. Nevertheless, I will bring you up again out of the depths of the sea; for the winds have gone forth out of my mouth, and also the rains and the floods have I sent forth."
(LDS (Mormon), The Book of Mormon)

Regards,
Scott
 

Bangbang

Active Member
Mark1615 said:
I have never heard of that idea before. Although, Satan has no power but what God gives him (Job 1:6-9, 12; 1 Kings 22; Revelation 4:11, etc.).
That is absurd. Then you are saying that this wonderful god of yours gives permission to torture people. Even if I believed in a god ...My god would not be so cruel.
 

Popeyesays

Well-Known Member
Bangbang said:
That is absurd. Then you are saying that this wonderful god of yours gives permission to torture people. Even if I believed in a god ...My god would not be so cruel.
We are born in this world and we die in this world, everyone is treated the same.

Regards,
Scott
 

Bangbang

Active Member
Popeyesays said:
We are born in this world and we die in this world, everyone is treated the same.

Regards,
Scott
Everyone in this world has not been treated the same but we all have the same ending....death.
 

Squirt

Well-Known Member
jstinson said:
I have always believed that God turned the control of the Earth's weather over to Satan. Does anyone know of any text that supports or defies this theory?
Only winter. Satan definitely is in control of winter. Satan has nothing whatsoever to do with Spring. ;)
 

Popeyesays

Well-Known Member
Bangbang said:
Everyone in this world has not been treated the same but we all have the same ending....death.
We are all born and we all die - identical treatment - what comes in between is at least half our own doing. How we choose treat one another and ourselves is the point of it all.

Regards,
Scott
 

MdmSzdWhtGuy

Well-Known Member
Well I figure there is roughly the same amount of evidence for Satan controlling the weather as there is for Poseidan, or wood nymphs controlling the weather.

B.
 

Smoke

Done here.
jstinson said:
I have always believed that God turned the control of the Earth's weather over to Satan. Does anyone know of any text that supports or defies this theory?
Most likely, somebody was reading a little too much into the expression "prince of the power of the air."
 
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