Atheist's shouldn't be believing in anything they can't stare at with their eyeballs or rub their hands all over.
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Atheists View On Satanism?
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McBell
Resident Sourpuss
Interesting definition you must have of atheism.
Do you also believe that theists must believe everything that cannot be proven to exist or not not exist?
If not, why the blatant hypocrisy?
My take on atheism is much more accurate than your take on theism.
Cephus
Relentlessly Rational
I would say that's almost certainly untrue.
As would I.
McBell
Resident Sourpuss
I have not presented my "take" on theism.
I merely presented a logical conclusion on what your "take" must be based upon your "take" on atheism.
I do notice that you failed to answer the question.
Why is that?
Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
...no we don't.
If 'we' means 'atheists' then it's a big negatory chief.
Nope. Theists believe in what they want. Some believe in Christ without really understanding His gospel. Others have taken God's word and put it to the test. What Christians must believe, if they want to return back to their Father in Heaven, is that they must fear God and keep His commandments.
Now, back to my take on atheism. I made the statement that atheists should not be believing in anything that they can't stare at with their own eyeballs or that they can't rub their hands all over. Tell me how this doesn't apply to the belief that God exists.
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Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Some forms of religion don't include a higher power. It depends how you define god, I suppose, but there are atheistic Buddhists and Satanists, as quick examples.
Even ignoring those, you could split atheists very simplistically along anti-theist lines.
Long story short, since atheists have no doctrines or beliefs in common necessarily, there'll be diversity in almost everything.
But some things (dismissal or dislike of religion) are probably common compared to the general population.
Too simplistic. I would assume that most atheists broadly subscribe to the Theory of Evolution.
Which makes absolutely zero sense. Why not at least subscribe to the theory of religion then?
McBell
Resident Sourpuss
Because atheism is simply a lack of belief in a deity.
In fact, it is specifically the lack of belief in a deity.
Key word being deity.
So how about you back up your claim and explain how atheism, which is simply the lack of belief in a deity, is supposed to mean materialism?
Perhaps you have merely gotten the to words mixed up?
Uh-uh. Not strong enough. It's the disbelief in the existence of a deity. As in, "I don't believe in God, because there is no God".
Wrong. It is specifically the disbelief in a deity. As in, "I don't believe in God, because there is no God". It explains, in part, why so many atheists are egotistical.
Wrong, again. It is specifically the disbelief in a deity. As in, "I don't believe in God, because there is no God". It explains, in part, why so many atheists are egotistical.
The mix up is on your end. It usually is.
Now, tell me how you know that God does not exist, and why are you fighting the idea of a God in the first place? Do you not understand that the upside is infinitely better than anything you currently have any hope to live for?
McBell
Resident Sourpuss
It can be an active disbelief.
However, it is not believing in a deity, either actively {god does not exist} or inactively {merely lacking a belief in a deity}
You can whine about your favoured version of the definition all you want.
It merely shows that not only are you ignorant of the definition of atheism, but that you are intentionally ignorant of the definition of atheism.
Repeating the same ignorant statement does not help your credibility.
I am not the least bit interested in your strawman of ignorance.
You have been informed of the truth of the matter.
Your wishing to remain intentionally ignorant reveals much more about you than it shows of anything else.
Now that you have been informed, it is my opinion that every time you repeat the ignorant statement, you are flat out lying.
Monk Of Reason
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It depends on the branch of Satanism. Some versions of satanism I find personally repulsive. Others I don't see as any worse than any other pagan belief.
Monk Of Reason
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Wrong. That can be your personal opinion but it doesn't make you correct. I'm an atheist and I don't "believe there is no god". I simply lack a belief in the ones that have been presented to me.
Wrong again. I don't actively hold a belief in the opposite of any deity. Some atheists are egotistical. As are some theists.
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why is that? Why is it that you seem to have mix ups with atheists every time you talk to them?
Atheists don't have anything to do with knoweldge claims but belief. The word your looking for is Agnostic. Agnostic Atheists (as the vast majority are) are in a state of doubt rather than belief in all of the situations you have proposed
The problem I have with it is Self importance being number 1. You can't live in this world without others. If your self is the priority you will constantly be at odds with life.