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But Women Don't Rape

Curious George

Curious George

Veteran Member
Skwim said:
So, your saying your posts are so weak that they can't stand on their own without the help of hyperbole, embellishment, and overkill? Gotcha. We'll keep it in mind.

And, how nice of you to characterize most people on the forum here as "idiots."

Boy, just like god, you know what the future holds. Must be nice. :slap: And just to clue you in on a bit of the male anatomy: sexual intercourse, i.e. penial insertion, requires a tumescent penis, which only arises spontaneously, as when asleep, or when a person is sexually excited. Now, some males do get sexually excited when confronted by overly aggressive women, but judging from the reaction of the boy this doesn't appear to be the case at all. Fear, and distress aren't known to be sexual stimulants. So without a compliant partner with next to no chance of having an erect penis I fail to see how she could rape (n1. (Law) the offence of forcing a person, to submit to sexual intercourse against that person's will) him.
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Squim you are talking if vaginal penetration is the only form of rape. This may be true in some states, however there are many that would consider her putting her mouth on his penis as a form of rape.

You are one hundred percent wrong in your implication that a man cannot be raped if he does not have an erection.

I agree that the film wasn't rape- but it was pretty awful. And your response??? it reads very much like "eh- it wasn't THAT bad." It was horrible. The other riders reactions were horrible. I do not know the full story- maybe he made comments to her and she was "putting him in his pace" or maybe it was staged. But, very little could explain this. It was clearly an example of behavior that is wrong.
 
Skwim

Skwim

Veteran Member
Curious George said:
Squim you are talking if vaginal penetration is the only form of rape. This may be true in some states, however there are many that would consider her putting her mouth on his penis as a form of rape.
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Which states consider female initiated fellatio to be rape? Names would be helpful at this point.

You are one hundred percent wrong in your implication that a man cannot be raped if he does not have an erection.
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Well, he could certainly be anally raped, which wouldn't involve his penis, but other than that, ever try taking a limp spaghetti noodle by one end and shoving the other end up a soda straw?

I agree that the film wasn't rape- but it was pretty awful. And your response??? it reads very much like "eh- it wasn't THAT bad."
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:facepalm: And I think you should brush up on your reading skills, but that's your problem. Go ahead and read whatever you like into it. :shrug:
 
Curious George

Curious George

Veteran Member
Skwim said:
Which states consider female initiated fellatio to be rape? Names would be helpful at this point.

Well, he could certainly be anally raped, which wouldn't involve his penis, but other than that, ever try taking a limp spaghetti noodle by one end and shoving the other end up a soda straw?

:facepalm: And I think you should brush up on your reading skills, but that's your problem. Go ahead and read whatever you like into it. :shrug:
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Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Washington, Wisconsin Wyoming.

I might have missed a few though.

My reading is just fine- You said "Assault, perhaps Molested" She took his shirt off, she tried to take his pants off, her hands touched him all over his body. Sure, this is not rape, but using the Passive "perhaps" with regard to molestation very much downplays what happens in the video. Perhaps, if you want to convey your meaning clearer you could include more explanatory words in your post.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Skwim said:
That said, I'm sorry you didn't pick up on my post, and to make it clear let me rephrase.
"The boy in the video was assaulted and perhaps molested, but he was not raped." ​
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Good...I didn't know how general your comment was.
Now I know what you meant.
Now you know what it's like to talk to an engineer.
 
HiddenDjinn

HiddenDjinn

Well-Known Member
It's My Birthday!
Revoltingest,
Skwim, like many on this forum, will not concede a point that the boy was being victimized. It undermines the agenda of the hivemind here. Even if one here concedes the point that victimization occurred, most will attempt to claim minimal impact of said victimization, then route the discussion back to the standard talking points.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
nyRednek said:
Revoltingest,
Skwim, like many on this forum, will not concede a point that the boy was being victimized. It undermines the agenda of the hivemind here. Even if one here concedes the point that victimization occurred, most will attempt to claim minimal impact of said victimization, then route the discussion back to the standard talking points.
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I'd wager that a woman sexually assaulting a boy is generally
considered less creepily evil than a man doing the same to a girl.
After all, women portray themselves as victims, not perps.
 
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FranklinMichaelV.3

Well-Known Member
Maybe it was on here I had seen it. But I remember reading an article on how the way that men interpret rape is different from women. In the article the author described how a drunk woman came on to him, pushed him into a bathroom stall and groped him, and his entire thought process was how he needed to either make this stop (because he was worried of how much she would regret it later) or just give in and accept his fate.

He did not however have that feeling of being a victim. I found it interesting because I wonder how much of that is an insight into the male brain, that even in a situation where it is a woman taking advantage of us, we still look at it as an issue with their wellbeing and not necessarily ours.
 
Skwim

Skwim

Veteran Member
Curious George said:
Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Washington, Wisconsin Wyoming.
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My reading is just fine- You said "Assault, perhaps Molested" She took his shirt off, she tried to take his pants off, her hands touched him all over his body. Sure, this is not rape, but using the Passive "perhaps" with regard to molestation very much downplays what happens in the video.
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"Perhaps" isn't passive.

But on to "more important" matters. The "perhaps" was meant to signify that I wasn't sure her actions qualify as legal molestation. I didn't care to look it up. ' :shrug:

Perhaps, if you want to convey your meaning clearer you could include more explanatory words in your post.
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Exactly what is it you didn't understand? I'm here to help.
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DallasApple

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
Its also laughed at if a male homosexual is raped by another male homosexual (think Jeffrey Dahmer's last victim the cops were recorded laughing and delivered the disorientated 15 yo back to Dahmer's apt and called it a "lovers quarrel where the young boy was then murdered)..and male on male prison rape it doesn't seem its "laughed at" but more like "part of your punishment"..the "extra" shame involved in male on male child sexual abuse ....Yep all of its bad..
 
DallasApple

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
freethinker44 said:
It's true, though, that the vast majority of rape of both women and men is by men.

I think it is probably counter-productive to focus on the tiny percentage of women who rape men or boys. The issue of rape of men is about the inequality men face in getting help and society's attitude about men who are raped, i.e. it's not rape if he had an erection, he deserved it if he couldn't fight them off, etc...

Do women rape men? Sure. But the problem isn't women raping men, it's how male rape is perceived and received.
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I agree...Even though there are similarities.."must have wanted it" etc..I think with a guy maybe the added "burden" is could have fought them off.Even though women often are questioned why did they not fight to the death too.(to her death)..
 
DallasApple

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
Watched the video.That in my mind doesn't constitute rape.However that was a criminal assault..he was being mauled .Also he appears to be a minor..which would make it aggravated assault of a child.And she thinks that's "funny" .I would think she should spend like 3 in jail and 5 probation pondering how "funny" that is.She appeared to me?Like she was "entitled" and like he was some sort of object at her disposal.

He also needs to learn (like we girls do) no one has the right to touch you like that against your will.
 
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