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All about Demons

nash8

Da man, when I walk thru!
I don't know. And that is not the image i have of him in my mind. There is a wolf tho. He is a warrior. And aparently very dangerous to Xtians. He is also known to kill the person which dares summon him. I dont know why he got stuck in my head.

Your new to this and you wan't to contact a demon which is known to kill the person that summons him?

Lol. I guess not. If only i knew how to communicate with him. Or even see him would be better. I just dont know how.

You said you have an image of him in your mind, so how have you not seen him? And if he is in your mind then how do you not know how to communicate with him?
 
Your new to this and you wan't to contact a demon which is known to kill the person that summons him?

Contacting and summoning is not the same thing.

You said you have an image of him in your mind, so how have you not seen him? And if he is in your mind then how do you not know how to communicate with him?

The image in my head could be just my imagination. And i dont know wether my thoughts are my own or that of Lord Andras. I need a different way to communicate with him. eg. Witchboard.
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
You have your mind, can't get more private than that. And as said before, your mind is the very home where all "supernatual" entities reside, including your HGA / higher self / whatever you want to call it.

Hard to tell with this really. Chicken or the egg problem really. One could argue you are creating the thought form one could argue that it exists independently -- I'd argue neither. Telepathy and "talking to oneself" aka the little voice in ones head seem similar initially. It's only after years that they seem way different... It's hard to even say whether your mind is the seat of the consciousness and its responses aren't a triggered effect from other outside stimuli. It's very likely that it may be something like a virtual reality suit where you have been plugged into it sort of matrix-style. Since you can't view anything outside the simulation... REALLY hard to tell, but anything is possible if it can be conceived. :)
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
When all evidence suggests one thing, I find it acceptable to prefer that over something else.
 

Orias

Left Hand Path
What is a Demon's nature towards New Satanists? I'm interested in Spiritual Satanism, Magic, and Demons. I'm an open minded person and i question everything.

Stay away from them.

Its ok to question, but don't invite an answer that doesn't come from yourself.
 

Infinitum

Possessed Bookworm
I kind of agree with Orias. I work a lot with dark spirits myself and have been in a handful of situations I wouldn't have wanted to find myself in. While I think demons can be very rewarding friends or mentors I think it's also good to remember that they are a lot like fire. Treat them correctly and they're valuable asset in your life, be careless and your house burns down and you with it.

Good luck with finding what's right for you. There's lots and lots of material out there, but in the end it will come down to what works for you personally and what kind of relationship you're after.

PS. Try catching the attention of demons with treats. At least for me luring them with small things they like makes it easier for me to connect with them. Works especially well with tricksters. ;)
 
Stay away from them.

Its ok to question, but don't invite an answer that doesn't come from yourself.

I can't do that. It is like telling a Xtian not to invite an answer from god. I am a Satanist, you can't expect me not to search an answer from Satan and Demons. Where is the logic in that.
 

nash8

Da man, when I walk thru!
I can't do that. It is like telling a Xtian not to invite an answer from god. I am a Satanist, you can't expect me not to search an answer from Satan and Demons. Where is the logic in that.

I consider myself a Christian, but I do not invite answers from God in any traditional sense of the Christian belief. And on that note, I also consider myself a Buddhist, Hindu, Jew, Muslim, Satanist, Luciferian, Jain, Gnostic, and many other religions/philosophies that I haven't listed.

Many branches of Satanism view Satan and Demons as aspects of the self, so therefore, when you recieve answers from Satan and/or Demons you are actually receiving answers from your self.

Where is the logic in searching for answers anywhere, but within yourself?
 
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nash8

Da man, when I walk thru!
And just so you know, I'm not trying to defer you from contacting demons, but your response "that you can't do something", and that it is not logical to "not ask for answers from demons" does not lend well to me believing that you can hold your own with a demon, especially one that seems as fierce as Andras, atleast at this point in time.

From my experiences, demons demand a high sense of self with those they work, they also demand high logical abilities, and the ability to offer them something that they will benefit from. Do you believe you have a strong enough sense of self to work with demons? Do you believe you can outwit a demon in a battle of logical abilities? What do you believe to have to offer that a Demon would wan't in exchange for his knowledge?
 
Do you believe you have a strong enough sense of self to work with demons? Do you believe you can outwit a demon in a battle of logical abilities? What do you believe to have to offer that a Demon would wan't in exchange for his knowledge?

I may not yet have a strong sense of self, but i do have a strong will. And because i am new i dont expect a strong sense of self. That is something i yet have to accomplish. I also do not think that a Demon can be outwit. About what i have to offer, ive got plenty. Question is if he would except the offer. And you believe that all is in your head. I dont. I said earlier in one of my posts that i believe in them to exist as we exist. Not in my head but physically. So there is really no point in stretching this chat you and i have, because what we believe is worlds apart.
 

Orias

Left Hand Path
I can't do that. It is like telling a Xtian not to invite an answer from god. I am a Satanist, you can't expect me not to search an answer from Satan and Demons. Where is the logic in that.

A sword doesn't get emotionally attached to its wielder, the same sword you swing to cut enemies down before you can be used to cut you down as well.

The same applies for...demons.
 

nash8

Da man, when I walk thru!
I may not yet have a strong sense of self, but i do have a strong will.

What is the difference?


And because i am new i dont expect a strong sense of self.

How does being new to Satanism affect strength of self?


That is something i yet have to accomplish.

So why not focus on this aspect? If you rely on the demon to strengthen you, is it yourself that is being strengthened?

I also do not think that a Demon can be outwit.

Why not?

About what i have to offer, ive got plenty.

What is it that you have to offer, if you don't mind me asking?

Question is if he would except the offer.

So it reverts back to my original question, what do you have that he would want?


And you believe that all is in your head.

Why would you believe that?

I dont. I said earlier in one of my posts that i believe in them to exist as we exist. Not in my head but physically.

I think that I stated somewhere in this thread that I believe they exist in both.

So there is really no point in stretching this chat you and i have, because what we believe is worlds apart.

How so?

I definitely have some beliefs that are different from yours, but I also have beliefs that are similar to yours. You asked how Demons feel towards "new Satanists", and while I am not new to this, nor a Satinist in the traditional sense, I have experience with demons, and I am giving you my view on how they would "feel" towards you from my experience with them.

A sword doesn't get emotionally attached to its wielder, the same sword you swing to cut enemies down before you can be used to cut you down as well.

The same applies for...demons.

Indeed.
 

Orias

Left Hand Path
You can chose, angel or demon, but they are the same. If you treat this...conjuration as a demon, then it all comes down to the subject matter. The same can be said for angels, because what they really are is a part of the psyches ultimate working (if one is to even adhere to such terms, angels and demons).
 
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