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Caning a woman who broke the law

CaptainXeroid

CaptainXeroid

Following Christ
I concur! Not only is it disturbing that there is ANY penalty for a living arrangement that is no one else's business, but the public beating and disparate treatment for the woman and her boyfriend is unjust.:mad:
 
Engyo

Engyo

Prince of Dorkness!
beckysoup61 said:
I find this picture to be a bit disturbing, don't you?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11147680/displaymode/1107/s/2/framenumber/6/var1/next_5

It just bothers me that there are no women to be seen, all men.
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Becky -

There is at least one woman in the front row (pink headscarf), and possibly another behind her (white scarf w/black or blue band). I think there are some more women with black headscarves, but they are harder to pick out.

I do think the boyfriend ought to be kneeling right next to her, getting the same number of strokes she does, but I don't believe that Shariah law treats men and women equally in these kinds of cases. If I am wrong, then where is the boyfriend?
 
michel

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
CaptainXeroid said:
I concur! Not only is it disturbing that there is ANY penalty for a living arrangement that is no one else's business, but the public beating and disparate treatment for the woman and her boyfriend is unjust.:mad:
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I agree, but we have to turn away from this, as dishonest as it makes me feel. This is a Faith of which we cannot afford to be judgemental.

Broken glass, bare feet..........:(
 
CaptainXeroid

CaptainXeroid

Following Christ
michel said:
I agree, but we have to turn away from this...
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Respectfully, I disagree. I'm not advocating we use any kind of 'force' to change their minds, but I see nothing wrong with speaking out against that which I believe to be inherently unfair.
 
YmirGF

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
<sarcasm>
I don't know how people can be against such an enlightened manner of dealing with such an terribly serious issue.
</sarcasm>

I forced myself to sit through a video of a stoning before Christmas. It was certainly an eye-opener. Stoning is probably the most brutal form of execution I can imagine. It is all the more brutal considering the crowd was almost in a religious froth. I simply could not get the words of Jesus out of my head. "He who is without sin, cast the first stone." Frankly, I had no idea there were so many on our planet who were "without sin".
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
michel said:
I agree, but we have to turn away from this, as dishonest as it makes me feel. This is a Faith of which we cannot afford to be judgemental.

Broken glass, bare feet..........:(
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Wouldn't that be like judging Christianity by the Inquisition or Calvin's Geneva?
 
Smoke

Smoke

Done here.
Engyo said:
I do think the boyfriend ought to be kneeling right next to her, getting the same number of strokes she does,
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Do you? I think the opposite -- that nobody should ever be caned for violating some arbitrary religious taboo.
 
Smoke

Smoke

Done here.
YmirGF said:
I forced myself to sit through a video of a stoning before Christmas. It was certainly an eye-opener.
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I remember seeing a video of a Tonton Macoute being stoned in Haiti when the Duvalier regime fell. It was really horrible, no matter how brutal the Tonton Macoutes were. It still makes me a little sick to think about it.
 
Engyo

Engyo

Prince of Dorkness!
MidnightBlue said:
Do you? I think the opposite -- that nobody should ever be caned for violating some arbitrary religious taboo.
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Alright, from an absolute point of view I certainly agree with you. I guess to rephrase my original statement I should have said:
"If Sharia law must punish this "crime" by caning, then I do think the boyfriend ought to be kneeling right next to her, getting the same number of strokes she does, but I don't believe that Shariah law treats men and women equally in these kinds of cases."

Hopefully that will clarify the sentiment I was trying to express.
 
Jayhawker Soule

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
YmirGF said:
I simply could not get the words of Jesus out of my head. "He who is without sin, cast the first stone."
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Sadly, this is from the Pericope de Adultera (John 7:53 - 8:11) about which we are told:
This entire section, 7:53-8:11, traditionally known as the pericope adulterae, is not contained in the earliest and best mss and was almost certainly not an original part of the Gospel of John. Among modern commentators and textual critics, it is a foregone conclusion that the section is not original but represents a later addition to the text of the Gospel. B. M. Metzger summarizes: “the evidence for the non-Johannine origin of the pericope of the adulteress is overwhelming”. [ bible.org ]​
None of this, of course, justifies the barbarism depicted in the picture.
 
Jayhawker Soule

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
angellous_evangellous said:
Wouldn't that be like judging Christianity by the Inquisition or Calvin's Geneva?
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How would you judge Christianity and the Christian world at that time?
 
Terrywoodenpic

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
michel said:
I agree, but we have to turn away from this, as dishonest as it makes me feel. This is a Faith of which we cannot afford to be judgemental.

Broken glass, bare feet..........:(
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Sometimes you must break eggs to make omelets.
This is an example.

Terry___________________________
Blessed are the merciful, mercy shall be shown unto them.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
Jayhawker Soule said:
Sadly, this is from the Pericope de Adultera (John 7:53 - 8:11) about which we are told:
This entire section, 7:53-8:11, traditionally known as the pericope adulterae, is not contained in the earliest and best mss and was almost certainly not an original part of the Gospel of John. Among modern commentators and textual critics, it is a foregone conclusion that the section is not original but represents a later addition to the text of the Gospel. B. M. Metzger summarizes: “the evidence for the non-Johannine origin of the pericope of the adulteress is overwhelming”. [ bible.org ]​
None of this, of course, justifies the barbarism depicted in the picture.
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It is not sad at all that the Johanine school remembered Jesus in this way.
 
YmirGF

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Jayhawker Soule said:
Sadly, this is from the Pericope de Adultera (John 7:53 - 8:11) about which we are told:
This entire section, 7:53-8:11, traditionally known as the pericope adulterae, is not contained in the earliest and best mss and was almost certainly not an original part of the Gospel of John. Among modern commentators and textual critics, it is a foregone conclusion that the section is not original but represents a later addition to the text of the Gospel. B. M. Metzger summarizes: “the evidence for the non-Johannine origin of the pericope of the adulteress is overwhelming”. [ bible.org ]​
None of this, of course, justifies the barbarism depicted in the picture.
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Very interesting material. Thank you Jayhawker.
 
Jayhawker Soule

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
angellous_evangellous said:
It is not sad at all that the Johanine school remembered Jesus in this way.
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“the evidence for the non-Johannine origin of the pericope of the adulteress is overwhelming” [ibid]
 
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