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Report that says 4 out of 10 households now have women as breadwinner....DISASTER!!!

Aquitaine

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
Me Myself said:
Well, sexy woman can have great power over me if they play their cards right.

That counts right? :D
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Good point! Attractive women have a lot of power over Men. They're usually the types that other women instantly hate, for apparently no reason. :p
 
Alceste

Alceste

Vagabond
I think it's awesome how upset they are. I got a good giggle out of the video. Soon that kind of talk will be only heard in beauty salons and frustrated manifestos in a tiny "men's studies" section at Chapters. Mwahahahaha.
 
Sunstone

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
VajraYosid said:
It does seem pretty catastrophic to me.

A generation of children raised by babysitters - mostly the ones piped over the tube.

Men in our culture suck at nurturing. Female breadwinners is a tax pimp's dream and a civilization's nightmare. Sorry.
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Which cultures are you talking about? Both my brothers are damn good fathers, as are many other men I know of.
 
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Kalidas

Kalidas

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Sunstone said:
Which cultures are you talking about? Both my brothers are damn good fathers, as are many other men I know of.
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Well yeah there is differences i mean I want to be a teacher, and had my son survived I would have been the best dad, know what screw that I am an AWEAOME dad I am my god sons only father figure and even calls me dad(love that kid)

The point is our culture does not make for nurturing fathers. Men in our culture.are taught to be abrasive, tough, emotiomless, and generally jerkish. Its the country we live im
 
Me Myself

Me Myself

Back to my username
lemaster13 said:
Well yeah there is differences i mean I want to be a teacher, and had my son survived I would have been the best dad, know what screw that I am an AWEAOME dad I am my god sons only father figure and even calls me dad(love that kid)

The point is our culture does not make for nurturing fathers. Men in our culture.are taught to be abrasive, tough, emotiomless, and generally jerkish. Its the country we live im
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They are also taught to be nurturing. If only by other people like you.

Remember absolutes rarely exist.
 
Kalidas

Kalidas

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Me Myself said:
They are also taught to be nurturing. If only by other people like you.

Remember absolutes rarely exist.
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I'm not saying they don't exist I am just arguing that he has a point. Now here is where I disagree. Much like I can be nurturing I think it is important for men to learn to be. I don't like the way men are forced into a stupid "manly" role in this society I want to see it change thus I am trying to become part of that change. We are society to change society we must change ourselves first.
 
Penumbra

Penumbra

Veteran Member
Premium Member
MysticSang'ha said:
A response to the firestorm. Oh, Megyn Kelly. You spirited Wonder Woman, you. :cool:

Megyn Kelly Shreds Erick Erickson and Lou Dobbs over Sexist Comments

Friday is fun day right now. :bounce
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In that video, Erick Erickson continued to be ridiculous and the somewhat more reasonable Lou Dobbs tried to redirect the argument without admitting that gender is largely irrelevant here.

She pointed out to Erickson that he stated as "fact" that kids raised in households with working mothers don't do as well, whereas multi-decade studies by the American Psychiatric Association and several other cited professional resources stated that the evidence says they do just as well. He had absolutely no response to the list of more professional resources other than to claim without justification that they were politically motivated (unlike him?) and that it's apparently clear that he's right anyway. His argument was destroyed to the point of him using self-deprecating humor (but of course he won't change any of his opinions).

Dobbs, on the other hand, tried to redirect the argument away from higher-income mothers and towards single mothers. He disagreed with Erickson's incorrect statements about the dominance of males and females in various species, and instead tried to focus on the problematic nature of single mothers. Kelly specifically stated she had no interest in talking about single parents (because there is little contest there that single parent households are less than ideal) and instead was more interested in the issue of working married mothers. If Dobbs would have simply said, "Look, I don't think this is a gender issue. I think the increase in single parent households, whether it's a mother or a father, is a problem," then he would have been off the hook. Kelly should have pressed him to make that statement by pointing out the existence of single father households. Just because more single parent households tend to be single mother households doesn't mean that working mothers are a problem. Dobbs has a reasonable argument that single parent households are less than optimal but this has little or nothing to do with gender. (In fact, I've often seen social conservatives argue that a female advantage is that women usually have better shot at getting custody of kids in any legal dispute.)
 
Me Myself

Me Myself

Back to my username
Penumbra said:
In that video, Erick Erickson continued to be ridiculous and the somewhat more reasonable Lou Dobbs tried to redirect the argument without admitting that gender is largely irrelevant here.

She pointed out to Erickson that he stated as "fact" that kids raised in households with working mothers don't do as well, whereas multi-decade studies by the American Psychiatric Association and several other cited professional resources stated that the evidence says they do just as well. He had absolutely no response to the list of more professional resources other than to claim without justification that they were politically motivated (unlike him?) and that it's apparently clear that he's right anyway. His argument was destroyed to the point of him using self-deprecating humor (but of course he won't change any of his opinions).

Dobbs, on the other hand, tried to redirect the argument away from higher-income mothers and towards single mothers. He disagreed with Erickson's incorrect statements about the dominance of males and females in various species, and instead tried to focus on the problematic nature of single mothers. Kelly specifically stated she had no interest in talking about single parents (because there is little contest there that single parent households are less than ideal) and instead was more interested in the issue of working married mothers. If Dobbs would have simply said, "Look, I don't think this is a gender issue. I think the increase in single parent households, whether it's a mother or a father, is a problem," then he would have been off the hook. Kelly should have pressed him to make that statement by pointing out the existence of single father households. Just because more single parent households tend to be single mother households doesn't mean that working mothers are a problem. Dobbs has a reasonable argument that single parent households are less than optimal but this has little or nothing to do with gender. (In fact, I've often seen social conservatives argue that a female advantage is that women usually have better shot at getting custody of kids in any legal dispute.)
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And thats frubals for the summary :D
 
MysticSang'ha

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
And a video response from the other side in defense of Eric Erickson?

[youtube]EwgX5h0YgYc[/youtube]
YouTube

LOL this debate just keeps getting better and better because of fellas like Bryan Fischer.
 
K

Kerr

Well-Known Member
MysticSang'ha said:
And a video response from the other side in defense of Eric Erickson?

[youtube]EwgX5h0YgYc[/youtube]
YouTube

LOL this debate just keeps getting better and better because of fellas like Bryan Fischer.
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I like how he completely ignores her argument, lol. Instead he defends the "poor" men Kelly confronted by talking about HOW she made her argument. And of course his defense included describing what a hot feminist she was. Honestly... she was hot, she was attractive, but that has nothing to do with her argument. I wonder, does this mean I can dismiss his argument by saying he has too white hair, and therefor is too old to have a valid opinion :p?

(It doesnt, btw, I am just making a point.)

I also like how he said that the guys where defending biblical marriage. They wherent defending biblical marriage, they where attacking other forms of marriage and relationships.

He seriously smells of ad hominen.
 
Alceste

Alceste

Vagabond
MysticSang'ha said:
And a video response from the other side in defense of Eric Erickson?

[youtube]EwgX5h0YgYc[/youtube]
YouTube

LOL this debate just keeps getting better and better because of fellas like Bryan Fischer.
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I wanna see the part where Megyn breathes fire. I must have missed it the first time. I think I saw the "unhealthy energy" though. It was "these guys are wrong and I'm going to correct them." Personally, I think that's pretty healthy, but I suppose if you are a guy who thinks all women should defer to your opinion on account of your Mighty Penis it might elevate your stress levels.
 
Wirey

Wirey

Fartist
I knew this would happen! I said it was the women! Even when I said it was Obama, or the immigrants, I said it was the women!
 
Falvlun

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
And here I thought this sort of opinion was now reserved for entertainment purposes, like in Mad Men, to show how backward such thinking was.
 
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