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"My Son is Gay"
- Thread starter Ardhanariswar
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Well, I would first tell him that it is a sin, and that if he wants to live in sin that is his choice, I will love him either way.
If he wished to follow the godly route, I would help him in any way, through therapy, prayer and any thing else he needed.
If he chooses to follow the sinful way, I would evangelize to him about the truth, pray for him, and hope that he would accept God and let Him work in his life to get over the sin.
Thinking about it, there is no difference, at first I thought I would force my child into therapy, but that is wrong. "A man convince against his will, will be of the same opinion still."
If he wished to follow the godly route, I would help him in any way, through therapy, prayer and any thing else he needed.
If he chooses to follow the sinful way, I would evangelize to him about the truth, pray for him, and hope that he would accept God and let Him work in his life to get over the sin.
Thinking about it, there is no difference, at first I thought I would force my child into therapy, but that is wrong. "A man convince against his will, will be of the same opinion still."
I believe that Homosexuality results mainly from upbringing, with possibly some genetics.
Lightkeeper
Well-Known Member
We have no proof that homosexuality isn't natural from some people. If you tell him homosexuality is a sin you could be condemning him to no life. I can't see how telling him he is sinful and evangelizing to him is loving him. Why would praying help? If God wanted him to be heterosexual that would have happened in the first place.Mister Emu said:
I am sorry lightkeeper, that I would love my son enough to try to make sure he doesn't lead a life of sin. I would risk his ridicule or hatred of me for this end.
Of course God wants him heterosexual. Free will and all, God will let you deviate.
Of course God wants him heterosexual. Free will and all, God will let you deviate.
Bastet
Vile Stove-Toucher
I'm curious to know what exact aspects of upbringing, you would think make people gay? Can you come up with a definitive list, so I can compare them with the upbringings of every gay person I know, to see if we can find a common thread? And if your son came out to you, wouldn't it then be your fault that he was gay to begin with? Upbringing and genetics and all...Mister Emu said:
I don't care how you word it, it still sounds like crap to me.
Unless, of course, he was schitzophrenic, or had multiple personality disorder. Who knows, really? Just because the Bible says so, doesn't mean it really is.
Mister Emu said:
That's the most truthful thing you've said so far.
thomasedison
Member
There are even some animals which are homosexual. And animals do not have free will. I think that is adequate proof that sexuality is biological.Mister Emu said:
retrorich
SUPER NOT-A-MOD
Prior Quote:
"False, I`m virtually surrounded by mostly happy self functioning homosexuals on a daily basis. They don`t seem to be in any danger."
"False, I`m virtually surrounded by mostly happy self functioning homosexuals on a daily basis. They don`t seem to be in any danger."
This kind of thinking (by Mr. Emu) reminds me of a suggestion I made a while back that The Boy Scouts of America (who disciminate against gays, atheists and agnostics) change their motto from "Be Prepared" to "Be Prepared to Go STRAIGHT to Heaven."Mister Emu said:Actually, True, not the immediate future, but the eternal after death future
meogi
Well-Known Member
My two cats, and just about every domestic cat I know, would show otherwise.thomasedison said:
Of course, that's domesticated animals, which act a lot differently than their wild cousins.Yea, I'm with Bastet on this one, could you explain what forms of upbringing 'make' you gay. I'll compare it with my gay friends too; it'll be like an experiment!Mister Emu said:
BTW, the people on that forum scare me. They scare me to no end. /shudder... I commend your efforts Gerani.
Jaymes
The cake is a lie
That implies there's something to be overcome to begin with.Mister Emu said:
Ah, I see. Thanks for clarifying that, between the combination of being up late and me reading stuff funny, I couldn't get what you were saying earlier.
How does that make it the word of God just because it's written down? Unless God or Jesus came and personally wrote yours, of course.
Ardhanariswar
I'm back!
"God does not make someone homosexual."
no, but karma does.
no, but karma does.
Ardhanariswar
I'm back!
my upbringin was not different from anyone elses. i look at pics of my 7 year old self and i remember being soo feminine. when i was 13, puberty started and i graudually learned i was gay. of course im still open to anything.
i dont see how you can believe that its a choice. if sin is a choice, why would homos want to be gay? to be different from society? to be ousted and be hated by parents? seriously that doesnt make any sense....
i thank God and my good deeds i did in my past life for not being born into a christian fundamentalist home. i seriously would hav ebeen driven to suicide by them.
i dont see how you can believe that its a choice. if sin is a choice, why would homos want to be gay? to be different from society? to be ousted and be hated by parents? seriously that doesnt make any sense....
i thank God and my good deeds i did in my past life for not being born into a christian fundamentalist home. i seriously would hav ebeen driven to suicide by them.
Lightkeeper
Well-Known Member
Do you think your parents can keep you from being heterosexual? Imagine what that would be like. Imagine they told you it was a sin. Your son would have no more control over homosexuality than you have over heterosexuality. It is humans that have decided that homosexuality is a sin.Mister Emu said:
Pah
Uber all member
Mister Emu said:
In all fairness, there have been factors that point to an elements of nurture as well as those the point away from it.
One, off the top of my head, is the commonality (not universal amongst homosexuals) of an "aggressive" mother.
If a man is "straight" there is a 4% chance his brother will be gay. If a man is gay, there will be a 22% chance that his brother will be gay. If a woman is lesbian, her sister will be twice as likely to be lesbian. There is a "clustering" of homosexuality in families.
I once posted a scan of the chapter in Evolutions Rainbow by Joan Roughgarden called Sexual Orientation in another board. It is very long and would cover many posts. All of this "nature vs nurture" is explained there with a lot of discussion as to what orientation is. If it's okay with management here, I can do it again.
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skills101
Vicar of Christ
Did the mother of this child take out the time to consider if he was really a christian? As a non-christian, he wouldn't be bound by the same rules. Maybe he doesn't want to be bound by the same rules. Somehow, I get the feeling she's trying to push religion down the boy's throat. What she believes isn't necessarily what he believes. Perhaps he thinks there is no "salvation" and homosexuality is perfectly moralic. All that talk about programs to change him when he doesn't wnat to be changed. Whatever happened to freedom of choice, something Christianity has preached for a millenium?
Ardhanariswar
I'm back!
ya, i hope that boy can survive until hes 18 (or 21) when he can finally be free from such oppression.
standing_on_one_foot
Well-Known Member
Hmm. Interesting stuff. I was wondering, though, are people who are so against homosexuality so against divorce as well? Because I seem to recall some of the passages used to argue against homosexuality and gay marriage and such being pretty strongly against divorce as well, though, of course, my memory could be a bit faulty here. Just a thought...
Well, my view on the matter is that people really don't get much say in their sexual orientation. As was pointed out, why would you want to choose to be homosexual? You don't just wake up one morning and go, "Gee, you know, I think I'll like men more than women today." (or vice versa, if you're a woman) I mean, why?
Well, my view on the matter is that people really don't get much say in their sexual orientation. As was pointed out, why would you want to choose to be homosexual? You don't just wake up one morning and go, "Gee, you know, I think I'll like men more than women today." (or vice versa, if you're a woman) I mean, why?