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Being an atheist does not mean I condemn people who practice religion

How do you view atheists, agnostics, & other non-believers?

  • I am a non-believer myself

    Votes: 15 57.7%
  • I feel like I may slowly become a non-believer myself

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I disagree with them, but to each their own

    Votes: 11 42.3%
  • If you don't believe in God, you're going to Hell

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    26
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LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I wouldn't say that many would become irreligious because of this, though. Of course, it would also apply the other way around.

Yes, it would. But under most social circunstances, it happens so to a markedly lesser degree.

Which is IMO actually a good thing for religion, albeit an initially unpleasant one. Religiousness is currently far more linked to lack of education than anyone can legitimally want it to be.
 
Geez, I come here and post something, and three quarters of what I get are attacks and insults, just because my beliefs and opinions don't align with yours and could be viewed as controversial. So it leaves me no choice but to fight back for myself.
 

freethinker44

Well-Known Member
Geez, I come here and post something, and three quarters of what I get are attacks and insults, just because my beliefs and opinions don't align with yours and could be viewed as controversial. So it leaves me no choice but to fight back for myself.

I see nothing controversial about your beliefs. Semantics are big issue here. There are some who contribute very little and simply argue over semantics. It's incredibly annoying so you have to think carefully about your word usage and clearly define what you mean in your argument, otherwise you never be able to get your point across because you get sucked into the black hole that is semantics. I remember getting incredibly frustrated with that when I first joined here. Sadly, it's easy to attack a good post if it hasn't communicated meanings very well. So you want to avoid that.
 

Sir Doom

Cooler than most of you
Geez, I come here and post something, and three quarters of what I get are attacks and insults, just because my beliefs and opinions don't align with yours and could be viewed as controversial. So it leaves me no choice but to fight back for myself.

I was going to respond to your OP with attacks and insults until I read that you actually still like all of us scared and stupid religious people. At first, I was a bit offended that you would insult a vast majority of humanity by calling them cowards and idiots, but then when you so magnanimously opened your heart to us all and mentioned how you 'liked' us... I just couldn't bring myself to retaliate any longer. Thank you, kassault37. Your 'like' is exactly what I needed, fearful, ignorant wretch that I am.

Ain't martyrdom fun?
 

Erebus

Well-Known Member
I have to admit I really quite like atheists. Plenty of my friends are atheists and while I don't respect their lack of belief I do respect them. The only thing I take issue with though is the inherent fear atheism seems to promote. The world is a big, scary place and I can fully understand why somebody might want to hide under their duvet and pretend everything can be boiled down to rationalism, empiricism and materialism. That sure does do away with some of those scary thoughts and tricky concepts! Still, it seems that it's probably a more intelligent approach to try and understand these things rather than brush them under the carpet. To each their own though.
I also don't mind at all that so many atheists prefer to contend only with a very simplistic view of a couple of religions. After all, it'd be a lot of work to develop a working understanding of even a small fraction of the world's religions and it can be pretty boring to read about them sometimes. In fact, it's a good job that all theists are religious and all religions are theistic, otherwise it'd all get dreadfully complicated!
So yeah, that said I do really like atheists. Never quite been able to fathom how all atheists without exception are rationalists and empiricists though. They must have a newsletter or something.
 
Thank you, I appreciate that! I'll keep that in mind when posting in the future.

I see nothing controversial about your beliefs. Semantics are big issue here. There are some who contribute very little and simply argue over semantics. It's incredibly annoying so you have to think carefully about your word usage and clearly define what you mean in your argument, otherwise you never be able to get your point across because you get sucked into the black hole that is semantics. I remember getting incredibly frustrated with that when I first joined here. Sadly, it's easy to attack a good post if it hasn't communicated meanings very well. So you want to avoid that.
 

F0uad

Well-Known Member
Actually, you're one single person so what you think really wouldn't matter, so no I don't wish it was like that, when in reality it already is like that as many MANY Muslims want atheists to be put to death. If you're a Muslim, read the damn religion, that's the Islamic law for apostatsy, blasphemy, etc. There are countries in the year 2013 that will put you to death, so don't think so highly of yourself, there are already plenty of religious freaks out there. Wouldn't make a difference if you joined them

Your such a troll.
 

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
Geez, I come here and post something, and three quarters of what I get are attacks and insults, just because my beliefs and opinions don't align with yours and could be viewed as controversial. So it leaves me no choice but to fight back for myself.
Then stop setting your self up for retaliation.
You started this thread being extremely insulting and continued down that same path by dictating to others what they think and believe.

Now you are making a sad attempt at martyrdom...
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Why is it that "having an opinion" automatically equates to "evangelical bigotry" for a lot of people?

Maybe you should ask someone to expand on how they reached their conclusions rather than smugly dismissing them or calling them arrogant, bigoted or condescending? All that's really been said in the OP is "I don't agree with, like, or respect the concept of religion, but that doesn't mean I dislike religious people". If there's an opinion you disagree with, do what any sensible person would do: explain your position and ask for clarification of theirs.

Honestly, some people on these forums gets so defensive over very little.

LOL. Did you read all the posts?
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
Geez, I come here and post something, and three quarters of what I get are attacks and insults, just because my beliefs and opinions don't align with yours and could be viewed as controversial. So it leaves me no choice but to fight back for myself.

A word of advice: Get used to it.

If your opinion isn't attacked, it is because you didn't express it.
There will nearly always be people who strongly disagree with you no matter what you say.
 

idea

Question Everything
I was going to respond to your OP with attacks and insults until I read that you actually still like all of us scared and stupid religious people. At first, I was a bit offended that you would insult a vast majority of humanity by calling them cowards and idiots, but then when you so magnanimously opened your heart to us all and mentioned how you 'liked' us... I just couldn't bring myself to retaliate any longer. Thank you, kassault37. Your 'like' is exactly what I needed, fearful, ignorant wretch that I am.

Ain't martyrdom fun?

LOL, frubals :)

Reminds me of the people who say things like "I'm happy, really I'm happy!!!"... or "I like you, really, I'm a loving, caring sensitive person!!!" ....

Usually happy/loving/caring people don't have to defend themselves as being such ;)
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
kassault37 said:
Being an atheist does not mean I condemn people who practice religion

No, being an angry anti-theist does though. ;)


Geez, I come here and post something, and three quarters of what I get are attacks and insults, just because my beliefs and opinions don't align with yours and could be viewed as controversial. So it leaves me no choice but to fight back for myself.

LOL!


You (in a nutshell): "We need to abolish all religion!!! Religious people are victims of their own ignorance and lack of education!!!!"

ReligiousPerson: "Eh, I'm a little offended by that"

You: "Oh why oh why is everybody picking on me just for expressing my opinions????"


Gee man, I'm baffled too. :rolleyes:
 

Titanic

Well-Known Member
I think i may be beginning to doubt my religion pretty strongly, given i have had my doubt's for a couple of year's.
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Each belief is equally right and equally wrong because our reality is created by our beliefs. If you disagree then you're right too :)
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
I don't feel moved to vote in the poll.

I never thought that most atheists cared that I believed in God and was a theist or not. There are a few, however, that do find a problem with it- they are incredibly rare and I have only "spoke" to them online and never face to face. Maybe there are more than I think, but they wouldn't tell me those things to my face (they'd know that we would just tell them to mind their own business- in a nice way, hopefully ;) )

I never assume things about people, the few times I've done it, I was totally wrong and it kept me from doing it anymore. I don't assume that people have a problem with me or theists unless they actually say so, for instance.

And religious people are not in anyway less intelligent than their non-religious counterparts.
 

hornsby

Member
Geez, I come here and post something, and three quarters of what I get are attacks and insults, just because my beliefs and opinions don't align with yours and could be viewed as controversial. So it leaves me no choice but to fight back for myself.

you have the wrong audience thats all. in real life you will find plenty average mainstream christians and muslims with very predictable beliefs you can use to accurately and effectively formulate your arguments with....but here on religiousforums its the exact opposite. we have the fringe majority where most everyone has their own highly specific, highly customized beliefs you simply cant neatly place into a box as you could in real life.. ...heck, just the other day i talked to a christian who quite literally believes that god is simpler than dirt..... additionally this place is plagued by smart*edit* who will make it their mission to give you a hard time just for the heck of it, because thats how they get their little self gratification fix.

just know that everyone here knows exactly what you are talking about and the points you are trying to get across. so its a pointless exercise because you have the wrong audience.
 
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Thank you for all your comments and responses. You are right, I will have to get used to people attacking my opinion and ideas. I always defend my position, and I do wish I had more time to spend on forums here. As a former Muslim, who is now an atheist I am sure I will certainly spend more time here in the future whenever I am not too busy.

Thank you again :)
 
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