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Is the Bible Changed, Altered, or Crooked?

muizz99

Sunni Muslim
of course

But not all christians believe in the trinity. I dont. And i dont worship Jesus, i worship God the Father, the Almighty, the Creator. There is only one true God in the bible and nowhere does the bible say there is a trinity.

So christianity really is a monotheistic religion. There is one true God, who's name is Jehovah, and there is his son Jesus Christ who is a spirit and a created individual. There are also millions of Angels who exist and were created ...they are spirits too... and spirits are 'gods' which means they are mighty powerful beings.

Then, worship the angels if you want.
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
If I say that they are Spirits, which means they are Gods, Definitely NO.

But if they are spirits, they are NOT GODS. They are THE CREATIONS OF GOD. Not the spirit of god.

you dont understand because you only view the word God/god as a reference to Allah.

But its not.

There are false gods. The people of ancient times had a whole range of false gods who had individual names.


Let me ask you if you have ever been to a Doctor? Do you have a Doctor who you visit when you are sick? How many Doctors have you visited? Does your Doctor have a name?
Is there only 1 doctor in the entire world??? Or are there many all with different names????

It is exactly the same with the word 'god'. That word is a title, just as Doctor is a title. Its not the name of the individual though, and there is certainly more then one doctor in the world.
 

Shermana

Heretic
Allah means, God. Not moongod.

It actually means "The God", from Al-Elah, which has a similar connotation to why Elohim and Theos/Theon are often articulated to mean "The god". To distinguish from other beings called "gods".

It's important to understand that the word "god" in Hebrew, and likely in early Arabic (Elah) and even Semetic Greek like Koine may not have the exact same corrolation to what you think of "god" in other cultures, since it most clearly pertains to Angels and Heavenly beings like the "Sons of god".
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Quran is the FINAL REVELATION OF GOD. If there is no corruption, there might be NO QURAN in this world. And god sent a prophet. And thats Muhammad, the final messenger of God.

As a Muslim you might believe that...
everyone else does not.

We see you as misguided.
 

muizz99

Sunni Muslim
thats right, it means 'god'

Its not a name any more then 'doctor' is a name.

You are a 'boy'....it describes you, but 'boy' is not your name is it?

there are 99 names of god (i.e. The most compassionate, the most merciful) .
 

muizz99

Sunni Muslim
As a Muslim you might believe that...
everyone else does not.

We see you as misguided.

Well, your wrong. Even the bible has many errors. And muhammad is the final prophet of God and he is the next to Jesus. There are 25 prophets mentioned in the holy quran.

We believe in the Injeel, Torah, and Zabur, if they are NOT CORRUPTED. There is no time machine to travel to the past.

We see as muslims that Christianity and Judaism are CURSED and DECEIVED by god.
 

Shermana

Heretic
its so-called gods. Whic means, IDOLS

Angels are in fact called gods.

You think Satan is a mere idol? He is in fact called "The god of this age". He is the one vested with power over the unrighteous.

Also, the word "so-called" is not in the text, it's added by certain translations who aren't comfortable with the truth that there are in fact "many gods and many lords".

The problem boils down to a widespread misunderstanding of what "god" means. There is only one CHIEF god, there is only one "god of the gods", that's why the word "god" is often articulated to become "The god", which also corrolates to the word "Allah" which is "The god".
 
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Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
its so-called gods. Whic means, IDOLS

do you see that the word 'god' is not always used in reference to the Only True God?

Do you at least understand that the term is not a personal 'name' for the Creator?

And finally, satan the devil is called a god. Is he an idol??? i dont think so. I think he is a real individual, a living entity. And he is called the god of this world. And then there are also the many gods created by people which are also idols, yes. They are idols because they are not real living entities, but they are still gods to some people.

But lastly, Jehovahs Witnesses worship only the one True God of the bible. His personal name in the bible is Yahweh in Hebrew, or Jehovah in english.

Exodus 3:13 Nevertheless, Moses said to the [true] God: “Suppose I am now come to the sons of Israel and I do say to them, ‘The God of YOUR forefathers has sent me to YOU,’ and they do say to me, ‘What is his name?’ What shall I say to them?....15 Then God said once more to Moses:
“This is what you are to say to the sons of Israel, ‘Jehovah the God of YOUR forefathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob, has sent me to YOU.’ This is my name to time indefinite

This is the The True God, the creator of heaven and earth, and this is the God we worship. Unlike other christians, we dont worship Jesus or the holy spirit as if they are gods to be worshiped, nor do we believe God is a trinity. I dont know where Shiranu gets that idea from, perhaps he's confused.
 

Shermana

Heretic
I dont know where Shiranu gets that idea from, perhaps he's confused.

Probably is for a similar reason why these translations add "So-called" to "many gods and many lords" if you know what I mean.
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
Probably is for a similar reason why these translations add "So-called" to "many gods and many lords" if you know what I mean.

the distinction is made in the translation, and rightly so, because Paul certainly didnt believe the gods of the nations were real. When people carve gods our of wood and stone, they are certainly confused when they pray to them and make offerings to them...i would certainly call that confused. :yes:
 
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