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Is the Bible Changed, Altered, or Crooked?
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Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
if you understood english well, you'd know that they are all accurate and they are all saying the same thing (except maybe the King James and Duay versions which say 'The' son of God)
They all say there was one angel who was walking around in the fire.
That 'one' angel is also 'one of the sons of God'
He is also a divine being.
He is also a god.
So they are all correct. They are just saying it in a slightly different way.
Me Myself
Back to my username
Actually, yes it has, and undoubtedly so.
Scholars know this and anyone with the most remote and superficial search done into it knows it too.
While most changes have no importance (like changing the order of a sentence due to structure of sentences being different in different languages) there are some that are of high importance.
Like the beautiful passage of "he who has not sinned throw the first stone" is seen to be an addition. Also there are phrases that only make sense when said in greek, but as we know, Jesus language was not greek.
So sure, lots of problems with the bible and changes and stuff. Some ibles even dare purposefully miss out verses, although others miss or repeat verses because of human error.
Lol
Sure, because Muslms agree everything.
What was it with the sunni and the haddit or something like that? And the boobquake?
PLEASE explain us the boobquake
Scholars know this and anyone with the most remote and superficial search done into it knows it too.
While most changes have no importance (like changing the order of a sentence due to structure of sentences being different in different languages) there are some that are of high importance.
Like the beautiful passage of "he who has not sinned throw the first stone" is seen to be an addition. Also there are phrases that only make sense when said in greek, but as we know, Jesus language was not greek.
So sure, lots of problems with the bible and changes and stuff. Some ibles even dare purposefully miss out verses, although others miss or repeat verses because of human error.
Lol
Sure, because Muslms agree everything.
What was it with the sunni and the haddit or something like that? And the boobquake?
PLEASE explain us the boobquake
Shermana
Heretic
The standard canonical texts have likely been edited and changed and seen interpolations, judging by a basic look at manuscript versions, as well as removed certain books that were accepted by some sects but rejected by the so-called "orthodox" (while in use among some orthodox churches like the Historical Ethiopian Orthodox and early church fathers), but the example you're using is not a good one. In fact, you're not looking at a textual issue but a translation issue, and one based on a common misunderstanding of what "a god" and "Son of god" means.
When one comments that someone looks like a "Son of god", they are exclaiming that the person resembles an angel or "Divine being". The word "Elohim" and "B'nai Elohim" are clear references to godlike beings who the Greek at some point rendered as "Angels" even though their function can be as "Angels" as in "messengers".
Because of this, certain translators choose to render "Son of god" as "a god" or such in order to convey this concept because the term "Son of god" may have more than one meaning, but in this case it's a clear reference to a Celestial figure which is being compared to.
Now there are fact several critical places where translators will deliberately fudge the grammar and text for the sake of their doctrine and audience preference, but this is not one of those times.
When one comments that someone looks like a "Son of god", they are exclaiming that the person resembles an angel or "Divine being". The word "Elohim" and "B'nai Elohim" are clear references to godlike beings who the Greek at some point rendered as "Angels" even though their function can be as "Angels" as in "messengers".
Because of this, certain translators choose to render "Son of god" as "a god" or such in order to convey this concept because the term "Son of god" may have more than one meaning, but in this case it's a clear reference to a Celestial figure which is being compared to.
Now there are fact several critical places where translators will deliberately fudge the grammar and text for the sake of their doctrine and audience preference, but this is not one of those times.
muizz99
Sunni Muslim
You mean, Christianity has MANY gods?
muizz99
Sunni Muslim
Enough reason to not choose christianity as religion.
WyattDerp
Active Member
That's, allegedly, not how Christianity works. It chooses you, or doesn't.
No, many angels.
Muizz99, why are you trying so hard to discredit Christianity?
I've seen others here do the same, and it bothers me. If you don't believe it is accurate, then simply don't accept it. As a Muslim you believe in the Quran as the final revelation, but you have to understand the Christians feel the same way about their Bible.
Each should accept their own Scripture and let the other be at peace.
It doesn't matter to me personally where one is right and the other is wrong. I'm Jewish, and I follow the Torah; it is God's revalation for the Jews, and it is the only one we shall recieve. The books of the Christians, Muslims, Baha'i, Hindus, or any other religion might be Divine revelations, but they are not for us.
I've seen others here do the same, and it bothers me. If you don't believe it is accurate, then simply don't accept it. As a Muslim you believe in the Quran as the final revelation, but you have to understand the Christians feel the same way about their Bible.
Each should accept their own Scripture and let the other be at peace.
It doesn't matter to me personally where one is right and the other is wrong. I'm Jewish, and I follow the Torah; it is God's revalation for the Jews, and it is the only one we shall recieve. The books of the Christians, Muslims, Baha'i, Hindus, or any other religion might be Divine revelations, but they are not for us.
InvestigateTruth
Well-Known Member
There are some minor inaccuracies in Bible, but there is no corruption in the essencial teachings of Bible. If there was a corruption, why God didn't send a Prophet soon after corruption to tell them and give them the correct Gospel?
You know the difference between minor inaccuracy and corrupted Text?
And the verse you are quoting, different translators, have come up with a different translation. It doesn't mean the Greek text was corrupted. It's like various translations of Quran which are very different from each other.
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Pappillion001
Member
There are more than minor inaccuracies and the integrity of the text will always be in doubt.
muizz99
Sunni Muslim
Quran is the FINAL REVELATION OF GOD. If there is no corruption, there might be NO QURAN in this world. And god sent a prophet. And thats Muhammad, the final messenger of God.
Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
does not even the Quran state that there is a devil god? and the jinn's...what are they???
Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
its a shame you only know the word god to mean Allah. Allah is only the word god in arabic...it is not a personal name for God.
the one and only name of the true God was revealed in the hebrew scriptures to Moses as Yahweh (Jehovah in English)
Im guessing that this is why you dont understand how there CAN be other gods besides the Creator of heaven and earth.
muizz99
Sunni Muslim
Well, its not GOD, its Lord, which is, the MASTER of all devil. If the devil is god, why GOD created him? Worship the Creator. Not the Creation.
Jinns and Shaitans are different. Jinns worship god. But shaitans are not.
muizz99
Sunni Muslim
Hebrew: Yahweh
Arabic: Allah
English: God
Aramaic: Eloi or Elohim
Just the same. God has 99 divine names.
Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
a god is a spirit. that is what a god is.
are you saying the jinns and satan are NOT spirits?
Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
of course
But not all christians believe in the trinity. I dont. And i dont worship Jesus, i worship God the Father, the Almighty, the Creator. There is only one true God in the bible and nowhere does the bible say there is a trinity.
So christianity really is a monotheistic religion. There is one true God, who's name is Jehovah, and there is his son Jesus Christ who is a spirit and a created individual. There are also millions of Angels who exist and were created ...they are spirits too... and spirits are 'gods' which means they are mighty powerful beings.