Sumit
Sanatana Dharma
Only Bhagavad Gita (Which is part of Mahabharata) was written 5000 years ago, all puranas I believe were written later or were expended from time to time.
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What is your opinion on Hare Krishna?
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ratikala
Istha gosthi
I think it is more a case of evolution of the soul through rebirth rather than evolution in the molecular sence.
ratikala
Istha gosthi
ASHRAMS not monestaries
I have allways felt that prabhupada can at times be hard hitting , yes , direct ! but we are intrenched in maya , some times we would benifit from some hard hitting truth .
personaly I feel that many of the early ashrams were set up with good intention by inexperienced devotees and there were without doubt some problems , there allways will be where human beings are concerned , we are the failable ones , yet we like to pin our failings on the system this is true of any religious organisation .
the purpose of an ashram is to bring people together in devotion to practice in an enviroment a less orientated towards the material world ,it is not so much temple life that one devotes one self to but to god .
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The 'prophecy' is not found in standard manuscripts of the Srimad Bhagavatam used by other sects, but only in manuscripts used by the followers of chaitanya, making it obvious that this 'prophecy' is an interpolation.
Wow seriously?
Are there any translation to English of the SB online that aren't Gaudiya Vaishnava? I'd be very interested in seeing the difference.
I don't know of any non-gaudiya translations online but if you are interested in buying one you can buy the one by gita press.
If you can read devnagari script , check the section where the prophecy is supposed to be here- Dvaita Text Resource: Pre-releases with the sanskrit of prabhupada's version. You will find that the verses of the prophecy are missing.
Until I met Madhuri here and she explained to me Chaitanya's teaching of one pointedness I wasn't very fond of the Hare Krishnas. Their temples are stunning but I wasn't very fond of what Prabhupad taught. That, however, has changed. While I still am not all that fond of Sri Prabhupad, I respect what he was trying to do and what he did was extremely successful.
Hari Bol!
Hari Bol!
mohinishaktidevi
Member
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Gaura Priya
IRL
I actually frequent the ISKCON temple, and really, they aren't a bad group overall. You will meet some of the nicest devotees.
My ex-boyfriend's father is a very liberal devotee and takes most of the Vaishnava Scriptures as metaphorical, and he also played a great role in the sustenance of the Vancouver temple. There are many devotees who are similarly accepting of gay/lesbian devotees, while others who are not.
There is always a full spectrum of devotees; but overall, ISKCON is a Vaishnava missionary group in its essence. They have beautiful temples, and very interesting people, and Srila Prabhupada wanted to build a (metaphorical) house where all could dwell and worship Krishna together.
He was a staunch guru, a strong Vaishnava, and a propagator of that missionary zeal to bring people to love Krishna, and even now, Hare Krishnas come from all stripes: men, women, gay and straight, black and white, old and young, etc.
My ex-boyfriend's father is a very liberal devotee and takes most of the Vaishnava Scriptures as metaphorical, and he also played a great role in the sustenance of the Vancouver temple. There are many devotees who are similarly accepting of gay/lesbian devotees, while others who are not.
There is always a full spectrum of devotees; but overall, ISKCON is a Vaishnava missionary group in its essence. They have beautiful temples, and very interesting people, and Srila Prabhupada wanted to build a (metaphorical) house where all could dwell and worship Krishna together.
He was a staunch guru, a strong Vaishnava, and a propagator of that missionary zeal to bring people to love Krishna, and even now, Hare Krishnas come from all stripes: men, women, gay and straight, black and white, old and young, etc.
illykitty
RF's pet cat
Hare Krishna is what made me look up Hinduism in the first place. I read a little about them, liked what I heard but I also want to read up about the other sects, major ones at least. How does it compare to Gaudiya Vaishnavism? Is it just more literal version, basically the same or is there some bigger difference?
Anyway, off to read some texts!
Anyway, off to read some texts!
Wannabe Yogi
Well-Known Member
There are huge differences between the different sects. It is my personal opinion that Hinduism is much, much, more diverse then all the Abrahamic faiths put together.
Maija
Active Member
i want to move to Berkeley just to be closer to the temple! i will forever feel indebted to my Iskcon because though they may not be the sect I settled on, my HK friends helped start the journey!
Gaura Priya
IRL
All ISKCONites are Gaudiya, but not all Gaudiyas are from ISKCON.
ISKCON has a little different twist on the Gaudiya philosophy, but the essentials are the same, especially its centrality on Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu as an incarnation of Radha-Krishna (God).
They are certainly not separate sects, but that ISKCON is just one institution of it.
'Hare Krishna' is just a name other people have given to Gaudiya Vaishnavites, simply because they chant one mantra as supreme. It's certainly not the proper way of calling us, but it sticks!
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MochaRadha
Member
I think they are very sexist
mohinishaktidevi
Member
but they have to follow what their translations say. For example in the mahabharata there is Druapadi with her five warrior princes as husbands which contradicts anti-feminists.
Anyway, I have always found the term 'sexy' as very vulgar. Do you?
Its so gross to for a man to say in public that a woman is sexy.
It implys 'sex'. Sorry I digress.
They can be, but not always. The sexism comes more from Indian culture than from scriptural reference. And I think it is improving from what it was. Even Prabhupada himself was less sexist than the culture he came from. Women were suddenly allowed to be given the gayatri mantra, for example.
In my limited experience in India, which really is limited, the sexism gets stronger as you head north, and I believe its due to Islamic influence, but I could be dead wrong. Its also very individualistic. I probably know 40 Tamilians really well after my 35 years of association, and I can think of only 1, maybe 2 who I would view as sexist.