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Something Dawkins said...
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Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
My thinking generally proves correct.
My view is that Dawkins was saying God, if he exists, wouldn’t care at all what we do with our genitals (whether current religious conventions think it moral or immoral). I took it that he was saying God has bigger fish to fry than caring about human sexual behavior. You’re kind of arguing that Dawkins thinks God would want us to be moral and is just arguing about the grey areas which some people think are moral and others don’t.
Your opinion shows a lack of understanding of the scale and complexity of this concept we call God.
Here’s my take..God/Brahman is everything. We are part of God and are currently in a delusion of separateness. Our goal is to remove the delusion. So behavior that immerses us deeper in the physical world of drives/desires (immoral sex) takes us away from our goal and ultimately makes us unhappy. So in a more modern intelligent sense, it is WE who should care about morality; it is not rules imposed upon us by some God.
These Dawkins-like thinkers want to perpetuate the ‘old-fashion’ thinking that God is a separate entity that imposes rules. No wonder Dawkins is an atheist, I’d be an atheist too with his God concept.
Koldo
Outstanding Member
Why do you say sex that isn't chaste doesn't lead to happiness?
How did you reach this conclusion?
See my post #64 above to Kilgore Trout. It answers your question.
Koldo
Outstanding Member
If sex that immerses us deeper in the physical world of drives/desires is immoral, then even chaste sex could count as immoral sex.
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mr.guy
crapsack
...the hell?
Me Myself
Back to my username
You know, the normal stuff kids do.
I remember when I was that age! Good thing the blender was off!
(Nah just playing.
)
mr.guy
crapsack
Oh god, i wish i hadn't asked.
Actually, for many of the advanced masters of the eastern traditions complete abstinence is practiced.
For most people below that spiritual level, abstinence is too difficult and would have negative consequence (i.e. the Catholic priests too frequent problems). So for most average people, a controlled (moral) sexual life is best.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Right. Your view of all of existence is so limited as to make human behaviors and urges an important aspect of it. No sense of the scale and complexity of the universe. Although I agree that it is we who care about morality, as it only applies to us - nothing else.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
I agree with you that the one true creator God does not impose anything on us human beings.
No, it's not limited it's relativistic. To us, our happiness and spiritual progress are important. To a being on the other side of the universe there may be things he cares about that we don't know anything about.