Does the Bible seem to give more importance to men

GodLovesUs · Jan 17, 2006

Does the Bible seem to give more importance to men?

At least most passages that I read are about men's experiences/works. I do not consider myself a Bible expert but would like anyone to comment. If you think it is mostly showing a man's experience, can you explain why? Even the story of Adam and Eve, it showed a woman started the banishment from paradaise. History of the world shows that mostly men starts trouble, well at least in my opinion. But I am no Judge.

michel · Jan 17, 2006

GodLovesUs said:
Does the Bible seem to give more importance to men?

At least most passages that I read are about men's experiences/works. I do not consider myself a Bible expert but would like anyone to comment. If you think it is mostly showing a man's experience, can you explain why? Even the story of Adam and Eve, it showed a woman started the banishment from paradaise. History of the world shows that mostly men starts trouble, well at least in my opinion. But I am no Judge.

The following puts it in context.

http://knowtheword.gospelcom.net/articles_roles.html

What Does the Bible Say About the Roles of Men and Women?
Bill Fiess

<SPAN class=style27>Are women inferior to men?

Buttons* · Jan 17, 2006

well OT i'd say men are superior, but in the NT, women are equal, as Mary Magdeline was the first to see Yeshua resurected, and therefore the founder of Christianity itself....

Bangbang · Jan 17, 2006

I think the Bible portrays men as blood thirsty gullible idiots. However it is a good read.

Bangbang · Jan 17, 2006

Bangbang said:
I think the Bible portrays men as blood thirsty gullible idiots. However it is a good read.

.....Oh wait...........thats not what you are asking.....is it. Women do seem to beplaced below men....buti sn't that the way they should mean women are so much trouble.

robtex · Jan 17, 2006

When speaking of the Bible I am assuming you mean Christianity. Most Christians put the weight of their religion on the NT if they use the traditional NIV or KJV. Having said that understand women, with the exception of Mary M. are mostly absent from the NT. The 12 apostles, are men including the replacement for Judas. All the books named after people are named after men. Verses like Timothy 1 chapter 2 versus 11 say things like
"A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. 13For Adam was formed first, then Eve"
Lines like this clearly spell out a woman's role in Christianty. The origninal church, which is the catholic church does not permit women to be priests. As an interesting footnote, women are clearly labelled as property of men in the OT but this doesn't seem to be a theme in the NT. The third footnote has some interesting things about women in the bible, specifically
Mark 10: 11 which seems to give women some rights.

footnotes:

1) Bible qoute taken from biblegateway.com NIV version
2) http://www.religioustolerance.org/ofe_bibl.htm
3)http://www.bibleufo.com/anomwomen.htm

robtex · Jan 17, 2006

Buttons* said:
well OT i'd say men are superior, but in the NT, women are equal, as Mary Magdeline was the first to see Yeshua resurected, and therefore the founder of Christianity itself....

Actually according to Corinthians 1 chapter 15 he appeared first to Peter than to the apostles, than to 500 unamed witness who, as a historical note never were identified in print. To qoute biblegateway.com NIV version Cor 1 chapter 15 versus 3-8

"For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance[a]: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that he appeared to Peter,[b] and then to the Twelve. 6After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, 8and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born."

Buttons* · Jan 17, 2006

really? i learned something new today

jeffrey · Jan 17, 2006

Because it was written by men?

I find it interesting that when Christ was nailed to the cross, the only ones that did not flee where his mother, Mary and John. The 2 women had more guts then 11 apostles.

michel · Jan 17, 2006

Sorry, the passage I meant to quote in my previous post didn't come out for some reason:-
http://knowtheword.gospelcom.net/articles_roles.html

In conclusion, we may summarize the woman's role in the following way: woman was created as an equal to man and as his helper. There is also total equality of man and woman in the body of Christ (Gal. 3:26-28). However in the economy of God, the woman is voluntarily to submit to the man in accordance with the authority which God created (Eph. 5:17-24, I Peter 3:1-6, I Tim. 2:11-15). This is like the submission demonstrated by the Son to the Father and the Spirit to the Son and the Father in the Trinity (I Cor. 11:2-3,Ê John 14:25-28; 8:29, Eph. 5:1) - a mutual submission between equals. This attitude of submission is very precious to God (I Peter 3:4), honorable before men (I Peter 3:6-7), and will be greatly rewarded at the Judgment-Seat of Christ (Prov. 31:30-31, I Tim. 3:13).

Man's role was to be the spiritual 'leader' of the house, while the woman took on the household responsabilities. (As I see it)

Feathers in Hair · Jan 17, 2006

I don't know. Some translations have pretty bad things to say about women, though. Especially the KJV. Since the topic is 'more importance', though, I don't want to drag it off-topic.

MdmSzdWhtGuy · Jan 17, 2006

The Bible is quite clear that men are of greater importance than women. I don't recall chapter and verse off the top of my head, but the Bible specifically states that women are not to speak in church. Up until recently in the Catholic church, this was still observed. To my knowledge women are still not allowed to be preists in Catholocism, and many other sects also observe this.

I don't know how someone could honestly debate in favor of the proposition that men and women are equals in the Bible. I don't know how they could, but would love to hear from someone who can convince me that the Bible is not mysogenistic.

B.

GodLovesUs · Jan 18, 2006

This is why sometimes its hard to believe everything that is written in the Bible because it is through the interpretation of whoever is reading it. For me it seems to be a book for men created by men. Well I am still searching for the true plan of God which I strongly believe is for everyone to be equal and happy.

Peace and God Bless

JerryL · Jan 18, 2006

i'd say men are superior, but in the NT, women are equal

But I want you to know that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of the woman, and God is the head of Christ.

A man, in fact, should not cover his head, because he is God's image and glory, but woman is man's glory. For man did not come from woman, but woman came from man; and man was not created for woman, but woman for man. This is why a woman should have a symbol of authority on her head: because of the angels

Bangbang · Jan 19, 2006

GodLovesUs said:
Well I am still searching for the true plan of God which I strongly believe is for everyone to be equal and happy.

Peace and God Bless

Look around you.....do you see all people as being equal? Just curious.

GodLovesUs · Jan 19, 2006

Bangbang said:
Look around you.....do you see all people as being equal? Just curious.

You maybe posing a rhetorical question but here you go.... No, currently I don't want to judge but I can still see a lot of people controlling the world because they believe their lifestyle or they themselves are superior.

It would be wonderful to find out if the world treats everyone equally (no fake democracy), then we might see the end of human suffering. If you think about it most people commiting crimes usually uses the excuse, they were not treated equally. It everyone is equal then no one will ever think of taking anything away from another person.

I have a hunch that if we achieve this almost impossible tasks then this world will be truly the paradise that everyone is looking for.

God bless

jewscout · Jan 19, 2006

of all the people who were true to and trusted in G-d in the Bible, Women were the greatest of these.

Faint · Jan 19, 2006

Aside from the multitude of passages in that book that put women down, the ultimate model for what is "good" and "perfect" is a MALE deity. So yes, men are considered more important by Biblical standards.

In the real world though, nature seems to place more importance in females.

Quiddity · Jan 19, 2006

I'm trying to understand why not permitting women in the preisthood makes them any less. As my wife said "I don't understand why women would want the job anyways. It's like men complaining to God because they want the pains of giving birth. Men can have both jobs if they want." Being a preist is not easy and if this is seen as some form of superiority then oh well....

nutshell · Jan 19, 2006

There is such a thing as equal, but different.

God doesn't love men or women any more than the other, but each has his or her own responsibilities within God's plan.

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