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Gay virgins

Silver

Just maybe
The 'Church' thinks sex outside marriage is wrong, ie. no fornication allowed.
But gay people aren't given the option of getting married.
So are gays expected to remain virgins for life?
Does the above suggest religion is man made, not divinely made?.

Silver:p
 
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Trey of Diamonds

Well-Known Member
The 'Church' thinks sex outside marriage is wrong, ie. no fornication allowed.

True.

But gay people aren't given the option of getting married.

Also True.

So are gays expected to remain virgins for life?

Exactly right.

Does the above suggest religion is man made, not devinely made?.

Not necessarily. Religion can be inspired by the divine and still be screwed up by mankind.
 

Badran

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The 'Church' thinks sex outside marriage is wrong, ie. no fornication allowed.
But gay people aren't given the option of getting married.
So are gays expected to remain virgins for life?

That and/or "converting" to heterosexuality.

Does the above suggest religion is man made, not devinely made?

Only if religion actually means "Christianity".

Not even that, but actually "parts of Christianity".

If you meant only the religion that teaches this, then what Trey said.
 

Shuddhasattva

Well-Known Member
Clicking this I thought for sure I was going to have to change my panties, but alas! not a juicy story in the Eros section.

...Just non-sequitur.
 

Silver

Just maybe
Trey of Diamonds said:
Not necessarily. Religion can be inspired by the divine and still be screwed up by mankind.

Whoops, divine inspiration seems to be having problems.

The divinely inspired seem not to be divinely inspired afterall.
 
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Badran

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Whoops, divine inspiration seems to be having problems.

The divinely inspired seem not to be divinely inspired afterall.

This is assuming that said inspiration has to be given with the plan of never allowing for it's mis-usage. Which is not necessary.
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
Whoops, divine inspiration seems to be having problems.

The divinely inspired seem not to be divinely inspired afterall.

I think you may be confusing "inspired" with "directed detail by detail and word by word".

Cause they are not the same :eek:
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
I understand the religious rational, it is not incoherent.

They say that the reason for sex is to have children. So the reason for marriage is to make a family.

Two men having sex would have no purpose for making children, so they see it as a sin.

My problem with this is that there is no reason to see a pleasurable endeavor as a sin simply because it wasn´t done for the reason it was "meant to" .

Having sex without wanting a child is not more unnatural than cutting a tree and making it a chair. It´s just us using stuff and possibilities around us to be more comfortable.

If it doesn´t hurt anyone, it ain´t problematic.

I don´t see homosexuality as the evidence religion is not divinely inspired, but I see their whole approach to "sex without the aim of children is forbidden" to be evidence of it being missing the target.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
The 'Church' thinks sex outside marriage is wrong, ie. no fornication allowed.
But gay people aren't given the option of getting married.
So are gays expected to remain virgins for life?
Does the above suggest religion is man made, not divinely made?.

Silver:p

It means that people are allowed to marry to escape the sin of fornication. And Jesus never said you had to be straight, just married.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
The 'Church' thinks sex outside marriage is wrong, ie. no fornication allowed.
But gay people aren't given the option of getting married.
So are gays expected to remain virgins for life?
Does the above suggest religion is man made, not divinely made?.

Silver:p
You can bet that the people who came up with that injunction were straight and married.
 

Harmonious

Well-Known Member
The 'Church' thinks sex outside marriage is wrong, ie. no fornication allowed.
As do a few other religions.
But gay people aren't given the option of getting married.
Well... Not to each other. They ARE permitted to marry people from the opposite sex. It may not be their desire, but they are permitted if not encouraged to do so.
So are gays expected to remain virgins for life?
Not if they can find it within themselves to fight their desires and marry someone of the opposite sex.
Does the above suggest religion is man made, not divinely made?.
Not specifically.
 

dgirl1986

Big Queer Chesticles!
It really wouldnt matter to a fair amount of denominations/churches as to whether the marriage was legal or not. They would still be speaking out about same sex relationships and same sex intimacy.
 

Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
Either or. Either remain virgin/celibate or grow toward what's availably sanctioned by God.
 
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