1robin
Christian/Baptist
That can be likely in some verses. In this one there is no verse, sentence, or word that can possibly justify your position. If you can't admit a white wall is white what point is there in discussing grey walls?We see it differently.
Mine is Biblical.You and I have a different view of salvation.
When an false equality is pointed out that is not a side step it is the truth. How in any way do the dynamics that apply to toasters apply to salvation.You are simply side-stepping my point.
When a gift is given to someone, they can care for it and use it properly or they can neglect it and ruin it.
Such is the grace of God.
Using it properly as God intended shall result in good results.
Using it improperly shall result in bad results.
New Living Translation (©2007)
And through your faith, God is protecting you by his power until you receive this salvation, which is ready to be revealed on the last day for all to see
1 Peter 1:5 who through faith are shielded by God's power until the coming of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time.
Salvation is kept in heaven where it can't be corrupted. Toasters are not. Salvation is non material and is kept by the power of God. Toasters are material and not even kept from us.
Is that why the new covenant (testament) began with Christianity. THe body of Christ is the Church. The Church is the actual bride of Christ. We belong to that body/church/groom the day we are saved.You are twisting my words.
His death was necessary so that the put away bride Israel could become eligible to be remarried to Jehovah in a New Covenant.
Christianity isn't itself the New Covenant.
This is too narrow but as it does not help your position any way I will comment.It was the good news that Jehovah came and condescended and made Himself subject to death so that His bride was released from the law of her husband. This is just basic marriage law.
Christianity is the "good news" pointing forward to the time when Israel as the cleansed and redeemed Bride of Jehovah would be re-married to Him.
When that actual marriage takes place, that is when Israel shall be saved.
Is that why he died to save all the lost?Jehovah sacrificed Himself to death so that He could lawfully receive Israel as a bride again.
Lamps and cloth having nothing to do with it. They are symbolic. The Robe is symbolic of the new perfect Body and mind that we will recieve when we are ressurected. These are said to be incorruptable. Our old filthy rags and sinfull nature is destroyed before we enter heaven.We still have the process of going through the cleansing and purging of the Bride before she is made pure, clean and white and is worthy of remarriage to Jehovah. If you do not have upon you the wedding garment, you will be tossed out. If you are not wise and if you do not keep oil in your lamps, you won't make it.
New International Version (©1984)
I answered, "Sir, you know." And he said, "These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
1 Peter 1:5 who through faith are shielded by God's power until the coming of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time.
Isaiah 64:6
New International Version (NIV)
6All of us have become like one who is unclean,
and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags;
we all shrivel up like a leaf,
and like the wind our sins sweep us away.
Isaiah 64:6 NIV - All of us have become like one who is - Bible Gateway
These among many others say we are ALL unrighteous and unclean but are made clean by the blood of Jesus when we enter heaven. Not made clean by effort or merit but by him. There is another verse where a prophet gets to Heaven still in his filthy rags and is then and only then given his white ones.
That could be done without the need for the death of Christ. His death is only necessary in my position. He came and suffered my penalty for me. He did not come and die to encourage me to do better. That makes no sence. He died in my place so I will not have to. That is gained by Grace through faith and kept in heaven as in the past tense applied at that moment many times in the bible. If I have it applied to my life and then at some point still die then you once again make God a liar. It never ceases to amaze me how a position can by so preffered that nothing no matter how simple, complex, or proven many times has any effect on it. It is simply amazing.We need His help so that we can do those things that enables the Father's will to be done on earth as it is in heaven. If we are not faithful, we forfeit our blessings and instead the warnings Jesus said shall be binding.