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World will end on the year 20??

Pink Top Hat

Active Member
The world will end when the Israelis/AIPAC attack Iran with their friends the evangelical Christians because they want the rapture and are doing everything possible to make it happen.

Maybe the Israelis are waiting for Romney to be the last crusader warrior.

The lunatics are reaching their goal it seems
 

Pink Top Hat

Active Member
I don't. I have only ever considered the relationship between Abraham and Christ. Matthew 15:24 He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."
Romans 15:8 For I tell you that Christ has become a servant of the Jews on behalf of God's truth, to confirm the promises made to the patriarchs

I am not aware of any promises made to Adam.


The prophets including Jesus PBUH were all sent only to the lost sheep the Jews except the final one who was sent to mankind
 

Pink Top Hat

Active Member
Adam the first man was a Muslim that followed Islam so actually Islam is the first religion.

The word Islam means submit to one God. Muslims are the ones who believe that and follow that. Adam and all the prophets therefore were Muslims according to it's true meaning and not the distorted version we see used today. Enoch was therefore a Muslim. He was sent to the Muslims as you say BEFORE the Jews.
 

Pink Top Hat

Active Member
That explains why todays Muslims although they believe in the bible and gospels are told not to rely on them because they have been distorted through the centuries by man. That makes sense possibly because I guess that God sent so many prophets to the Jews to return to the real religion of Islam and that religion is very simple. In the end God gave up with the Jews after they tried to kill his last prophet and sent the final prophet to the whole of mankind.
 

kylixguru

Well-Known Member
Enoch comes to mind but he was not sent to the LOST Jews because they did not exist yet. That would be getting into the subject of predestination. I don't believe it. Do you?
When Adam gave all the creatures (souls of men) their "new name", He fore-ordained them to be born under certain lineages at certain times and in certain places within certain cultures. If you were named to be a fish, that put you into the group of souls who would be born into a Christian family as a Gentile sometime in or after the 5th millennium in a creation.

Notice I do not use the word predestination. The difference is a person can make changes in their lifetime that allows them to move from one level of glory to another.


For example, even though a person was fore-ordained to be a Muslim, they could decide at some point if they wanted to convert to Christianity. Then, when they are judged again at the end of that cycle of Creation, it's very likely they will be named a fish instead of as a fowl. That way in the next cycle that follows, instead of needing to convert to Christianity again, they will be born into a Christian family.

It is actually a bit more involved than I make it sound but this gives you a glimpse of how it works. If you would like a bit more detail, please join the discussion here: http://www.religiousforums.com/foru...creation-cosmic-galactic-planetary-local.html
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Why does Jesus rule for only 1000 years?

I think 1000 is a metaphor for something else. I wonder what it means? If it isn't literal and everyone is either 1. ignoring it or 2. defining it literally, then we will never know what it really means, will we?

When I was a Jehovah's Witness, the Religion, I asked a brother "how do JWs know the 1000 years hasn't started yet?" How do you know?

His rule is eternal. The 1000 years, He rules in peace until the forces of evil come against Him and He defeats them.

I see no evidence to support that notion.

It is difficult to know anything about future events for sure but I do know that no-one is living forever yet.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Not so sure that nails down meekness. Submissive, gentle, humble, kind all of these can be synonyms for meek.

humble can then be connected with weak in that it is not strong and proud. So, the other poster was not too crazy in the suggestion.

It takes a stronger person to die than to kill. Killing is easy, dieing is difficult.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
The world will end when the Israelis/AIPAC attack Iran with their friends the evangelical Christians because they want the rapture and are doing everything possible to make it happen.

Maybe the Israelis are waiting for Romney to be the last crusader warrior.

The lunatics are reaching their goal it seems

Or we could re-elect Obama, who would just let Iran arm terrorists with nukes. And the terrorists are just crazy enough to use them.
 

Heathen Hammer

Nope, you're still wrong
Or we could re-elect Obama, who would just let Iran arm terrorists with nukes. And the terrorists are just crazy enough to use them.
Right, because we haven't been hacking their computers and messing with their atomic research while Obama's been Pre- oh, wait, yes we have.
 

javajo

Well-Known Member
I believe we may know the season of "end time" events, but not the exact date. There are signs Jesus gave, some ignore them some do not. Regardless, I believe we will all face our Maker one day and will all come up short in that we all have sinned. I have broken the ten commandments many times over in one sense or another. Those who realize they have, that they do not have the righteousness of God, simply trust Christ for the free gift of having the penalty of their sins paid for (the penalty is death so Jesus died). Christ then forgives us and gives us his righteousness, the righteousness of God so we are then fully prepared whatever happens. That's my belief.
 

kylixguru

Well-Known Member
I believe we may know the season of "end time" events, but not the exact date. There are signs Jesus gave, some ignore them some do not. Regardless, I believe we will all face our Maker one day and will all come up short in that we all have sinned. I have broken the ten commandments many times over in one sense or another. Those who realize they have, that they do not have the righteousness of God, simply trust Christ for the free gift of having the penalty of their sins paid for (the penalty is death so Jesus died). Christ then forgives us and gives us his righteousness, the righteousness of God so we are then fully prepared whatever happens. That's my belief.
The advent of the Son of Man has been here since the 1890's but nobody had eyes to see Him.
It happened just as Jesus warned. If the people were not faithfully watching He would come in an hour they would think not and He would be among them as if a thief in the night. (Luke 12:37-48)

The Gentile Christians were given an opportunity to receive the Father and His Kingdom but when the servants of the Father came to deliver the "meat" so that they actually had all of the details on exactly what the business and the primary objectives of the Kingdom were they counted them as foolishness and beat those servants and drove them out from among them.

Just as Paul warned, if anyone corrupts and perverts what the "good news" was all about, to look for and prepare for the coming of the Father and His Kingdom, that instead of it being a blessing to them it would be a cursing to them. (Galatians 1:6-9)

Nowadays if you speak in any way shape or form to indicate you have had a revelatory experience and acquired divine knowledge similar to what Paul experienced, you are immediately assumed to be a nutcase. I recently experienced such treatment from a Christian on these forums. That is a form of beating the servants of the Lord He calls to preach the arrival of the Father's Kingdom.

Now, instead of being met with anxious anticipation and sincere consideration and inquiry hoping that the Father is now establishing it, you are met with the claim that there won't be any more prophets to bring anymore revelation or modern scripture and Christianity itself is already the spiritual vehicle and there is nothing more to come so if you claim to be any special servant of God we know you are of the devil.

Because this blind and arrogant attitude has overcome the body of Christianity, it has utterly failed to realize the hoped for fruition. And, soon, it seems things are coming together such that there shall be a Christian holocaust and they shall be beaten with many stripes, not withstanding they cry "Lord, Lord, we have done all these mighty miracles in thy name..." and the Lord shall I knew thee not, depart from me ye workers of iniquity". (Matt 7:21-23)

Christians have done their best to be nice people but when the final exam came to see if they really meant what they were asked to pray for in the Lord's Prayer came, which is for the Father's will do be done here on earth in His Kingdom, they beat those sent to fulfill their longed for hopes.

That's where things are at right now.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I wonder kylixguru if I might copy that to my blog please? I wonder if it is too sharp and will be removed from forum?

The prophets went to Israel to warn the people. Now most people assume Israel was guilty of gross (obvious) sins. But I might suggest that the prophets where given divine knowledge of what Yahweh can see in people's hearts. And that is why they spoke but people did not believe them because the heart is treacherous.

Now prophets come again. But because the outside of the cup is clean men again are refusing to come back to Yahweh.

The internal fight for everyone is truth against falsehood. Isaiah 52:11

What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: "I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people." "Therefore come out from them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you." 2 Corinthians 6:17
 

kylixguru

Well-Known Member
I wonder kylixguru if I might copy that to my blog please? I wonder if it is too sharp and will be removed from forum?

The prophets went to Israel to warn the people. Now most people assume Israel was guilty of gross (obvious) sins. But I might suggest that the prophets where given divine knowledge of what Yahweh can see in people's hearts. And that is why they spoke but people did not believe them because the heart is treacherous.

Now prophets come again. But because the outside of the cup is clean men again are refusing to come back to Yahweh.

The internal fight for everyone is truth against falsehood. Isaiah 52:11

What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: "I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people." "Therefore come out from them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you." 2 Corinthians 6:17
Sure, feel free to quote this on your blog.
 

MissAlice

Well-Known Member
What is the signs of warning that the world is close to it's end according to your religion ?

Some warnings mentioned in Islam


Episodes of sudden death will become widespread (Ahmad)


When a man obeys his wife and disobeys his mother; and treats his friend kindly while shunning his father (at-Tirmidhi)


Men will begin to look like women and women will begin to look like men


There will be many women of child-bearing age who will no longer give birth.

When men lie with men and women lie with women (homosexuality/lesbianism) (Al-Haythami)



Women will be naked in spite of being dressed, these women will be led astray & will lead others astray (Muslim)


Female singers and musical instruments will become popular (at-Tirmidhi)
When singers become common (Al-Haythami)
People will dance late into the night

Them darn gays and women just ruin it for everyone. :mad:


Well all I cannot prove it with a religion but I don't think what we're doing to the earth, with the rate of fossil fuel and at the rate we're cutting and using sources will help slow down climate change anytime soon, not to mention the growing human population. Some people would disagree but I believe that and other contributing factors may in some way or another damage the Earth. When it will end depends on who it affects....by who I mean which species.
 
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