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abrahamic - satan

Bishka

Bishka

Veteran Member
Super Universe said:
Where do I get that 1,000 years is equal to one day. If you are asking what biblical verse I can quote I will use this one:

2 Peter 3:8 (New International Version)

8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.

But do not make a small box and paste the insides with the pages of only one book. There is a universe out there and many, many, revealings have taken place. Has the bible been written in a single seating?
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He says, "LIKE", like is a similie, but is not exact. No one really knows how much time a day equals in God's timeframe.
 
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mormonman

Ammon is awesome
beckysoup61 said:
He says, "LIKE", like is a similie, but is not exact. No one really knows how much time a day equals in God's timeframe.
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I thought all LDS members knew that one day of Gods time equals 1000 years our time. It says this in Abramam 3, and he doesn't use the word "like".
 
glasgowchick

glasgowchick

Gives Glory to God !!!
But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
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I believe that this statement is only there to show us that God is not bound by time.
 
jewscout

jewscout

Religious Zionist
mormonman said:
Ohh...I forgot! You were talking ablout how somebody thought that Isaiah wasn't talking about Lucifer in the Hebrew text, well in the Dead Sea Scrolls, which are in Hebrew, it has all of Isaiah, and it talks about Lucifer not some King.
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that i'd like to see, cause it's not in the Hebrew text

HaSatan is an angel and has and does the work of HaShem as a good soldier should.
He is G-d's Joe Pisci from "Good Fellas", but he still works for The Man.

to believe G-d has an opposite in Satan is to believe in Dualism, not Monotheism.

Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil; I am HaShem, that doeth all these things.
(JPS 1917)
 
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Dentonz

Member
Super Universe said:
Lucifer was a lesser angel who chose to suspend his path of higher universal learning in order to take a position to oversee the earth. At some point Lucifer rebelled against the idea of God or decided that the long journey to finally achieve paradise and the final joining with God was not worth it.

Lucifer was able to convince other lesser angels and humans as well that there was/is no God.

The higher angels took quick action, Lucifer was removed within a day but time is not the same for them as it is for us. One thousand of our years is only one of their days. So in one more days time (1,000 of our years) Lucifer will be judged. If found guilty of denial of diety he will cease to exist. Of Lucifer, nothing will remain.

Now how do the angels correct Lucifer's illegal intereference in our development without interfering themselves? Periodic revealings of the truth (all the stories of the bible and other religions). Unfortunately humans alter these revelations. Soddom and Gomorrah, a human city typical of the age with both good and bad was hit by an asteroid but for some reason God gets the blame. God does not kill. Please understand this for it is the most important thing you could ever learn. GOD DOES NOT KILL!

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That's an interesting interpretation. But I believe Lucifer was the Highest of the archangels. And because of his great glory decided that he wanted to be God. So God cast him out of heaven with all of his angels that he had charge over( which was one third). And by the way; Who KILLED Uzzah in 2 Samuel 6:7 "And the anger of the Lord was kindled against Uzzah; and GOD smote him for his error;and there he died by the ark of God."
 
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Dentonz

Member
beckysoup61 said:
He says, "LIKE", like is a similie, but is not exact. No one really knows how much time a day equals in God's timeframe.
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I agree, I believe this scripture is just stating that God is not bound by time and is eternal.
 
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Dentonz

Member
Super Universe said:
God said "I am". He did not say that was His name. Elohim. Yahwey. Jehovah. God. Creator. First Cause. The arrangement of the letters do not matter as long as we understand their significance.

I introduced myself with "Greetings!" but please don't call me that.

Matthew 11

27"All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.

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I believe the only name of God we need to worry about is Jesus. And yes even the angels in heaven know that all authority and power is given to the name of Jesus.
 
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mormonman

Ammon is awesome
jewscout said:
that i'd like to see, cause it's not in the Hebrew text

HaSatan is an angel and has and does the work of HaShem as a good soldier should.
He is G-d's Joe Pisci from "Good Fellas", but he still works for The Man.

to believe G-d has an opposite in Satan is to believe in Dualism, not Monotheism.

Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil; I am HaShem, that doeth all these things.
(JPS 1917)
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The Dead Sea Scrolls are in Hebrew:http://www.crystalinks.com/dss.html. I believe they are original Hebrew texts actually.

Anyway, I don't think a "good soldier" tries to bring Gods children to hell. Again, Lucifer wanted the glory for himself, rebelled against God, and was cast into Hell. And, I don't think God sentences His "good soldier" to eternal damnation.
 
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