World will end on the year 20??

jasonwill2 · Aug 16, 2012

Quagmire said:
Not so far fetched: Report: Chance of a Catastrophic Solar Storm Is 1 in 8; Would Take Down Power Grid, Food Transportation, Water Utilities, Financial Systems

I would bet all my soul on a 7 out of 8 chance, seeing as how it is so high in my favor.

tumbleweed41 said:
Well, let's see...

44- Theudas declares himself Messiah and says "the end is near". It was, the Romans beheaded him.

80- Ben Zakkai declares the end of the world before he dies.

130- Rabbi Jose declares this date.

381- Tichonus takes a stab at predicting the end.

400- Hippolytus and Rabbi Dosa both thought this would be the end.

470- Rabbi Hanina claims the Messiah would come 400 years after the destruction of the Temple.

500- Lactanius makes this claim that Christ is coming.

950- Acrostic, Adso de Montier-en-Der and a unknown Hungarian writer all pick this date.

And the faulty prognostication continues with 968, 979, 983, 987, 989 (Halley's Comet), 991, 1000 was a pretty popular date,

1002 through 1006 (coinciding with famine in Europe) also a "new star" seen in 1006 (a super nova) gave rise to predictions of the end.

1009, 1010, 1012, 1018, 1022, 1024, 1025, 1033, etc...

1666- Bubonic plague in London, not to mention the "Number of the Beast!"

1715- In a note from Sir Isaac Newton.

1836- John Wesley (Founder of Methodism)

1843-1844- William Miller (Millerism)

1859- Rev. Thomas Parker

1874, 1910, 1914, 1918, 1920, 1925, 1941, 1975, 1984 and 1994- The Watchtower Society

1910- Haley's Comet again. Many saw this as a sign of the end.

1953- David Davidson in "The Great Pyramid, Its Divine Message"

1970's- According to a tract circulated by Ron Reese.

1970- According to The True Light Church of Christ.

1979- Walter M. Simmons; (Booklet: The Day of the Lord, 1978, The final warning sign)

1981- According to Christian prognosticator Hal Lindsey,

1982- When the planets lined up and would create magnetic forces that would destroy the world.

1982- From a group calling themselves the Tara Centers.

1986- Moses David of The Children of God.

1988- From the book "88 Reasons Why the Rapture is in 1988"

1991- Louis Farrakhan proclaimed the Gulf War would to be "the War of Armageddon ... the final War."

1994- According to F.M. Riley, Pastor John Hinkle and the infamous Harold Camping.

Then 1996, 1997, 1998 and 1999 by various authors and preachers.

2000 was a big year for End of the World predictions.

2001- Jack Van Impe

2001- The "real millennium"

2007- Shelly Corbett

2007- Hal Lindsay, again.

2011- Harold Campings second failed prophesy.

2012- Mayans (?)

2034- John Denton

Soon- Jerry Falwell, Order of the Solar Temple, Church of the Final Testament, etc...

It's as if people want the world to end.

I hold the opinion that we are all in Hell now, and that the world ended in 32 A.D. :sarcastic

Reptillian said:
Sunspot numbers are a pretty good indicator of solar activity; and although the solar maximum will occur in late 2012-early 2013, it's likely to be a relatively low maximum. Having looked at weather data for the last hundered years, I've noticed that extremes in temperature and weather tend to correlate with solar minima...

...so according to this, the world should have ended in the late 1600's. It would have been the perfect time too what with outbreaks of plagues, religious persecution, and widespread violence and warfare. The world is only going to get more peaceful, so if Jesus H. Christ is going to come back and usher in a new era of peace in a fallen world, he'd better hurry up. We humans may figure it out soon without divine intervention.

Not sure of the time period between 1600-1750 there is due to lack of information or not, but there is some debate among Astronomers as far as I know, to whether or not our Sun is a slightly variable star or not, or if all main-sequence stars are at least as variable as the sun, if not more or less. Kind of hard to tell though given it's the only star we can study in detail.

ImmortalFlame said:
For me, the biggest signifier of the planet's impending doom is the sun exploding.

That would be a pretty good sign.

Problem with that though is that the Sun is not massive for a supernova, it would essentially just more or less fall apart and drift into a nebula. However it's increased size before expending it's fuel would mean that earth would be fried if not right-out engulfed.

FearGod said:
Adultery and fornication will be performed in the open

Adultery and fornication will be prevalent

Men will begin to look like women and women will begin to look like men

Family ties will be cut

There will be many women of child-bearing age who will no longer give birth.

When men lie with men and women lie with women

When people begin to compete with others in the construction of taller buildings

Women will be naked in spite of being dressed

Female singers and musical instruments will become popular
When singers become common
People will dance late into the night

Great distances will be traversed in short spans of time

People will walk in the marketplace with their thighs exposed

People will hop between the clouds and the earth

I like these things from your post, I don't see what is wrong with them. Though I can't say that I am a homosexual or even bisexual, because I am heterosexual.

Muffled said:
Theoretically The New Jerusalem could just pick us up and take us to a better planet but maybe God doesn't want us polluting the rest of the universe.

At any rate most of those not raptured are killed and the remnant killed after the 1000 year reign. That way the meek inherit the earth.

Meek people are easier to control.

Tbone said:
I don't know when the world will "end" but Christ will return on Sept. 18th in the year 2031.

This statement contradicts the Christian Bible.

InfidelRiot said:
Is it not common knowledge that Jesus will only return when everyone least expects it? Therefore, if people are expecting it every day and stamping certain dates for his return, does that not mean he will not return?

If you do not accept the Christian Bible as an ultimate authority it would matter little to these people what it says.

Heathen Hammer said:
No he won't. He's not coming at all.

I agree.

Astravalon · Aug 16, 2012

Tbone said:
I don't know when the world will "end" but Christ will return on Sept. 18th in the year 2031.

SLAMH said:
How could you be so precise?

Tbone said:
I read the Book.

Careful, Tbone, Harold Camping thought he knew, too.

Besides, if Jesus is God, and God is omnipresent, then he's already here. No returning necessary!

SLAMH · Aug 21, 2012

Tbone said:
I read the Book.

Ig Nobel Prize - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hey, click on the link
Scroll all the way down to year 2011.
Check the Mathematics category, the winners and for what they were awarded

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Muffled · Aug 25, 2012

Gjallarhorn said:
Hi Daddy!

"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

As a reference to 2031, this is a misinterpretation.

Muffled · Aug 25, 2012

Tbone said:
I don't know when the world will "end" but Christ will return on Sept. 18th in the year 2031.

He returns more than once. To which time are you referring?

jtartar · Aug 28, 2012

FearGod said:
What is the signs of warning that the world is close to it's end according to your religion ?

Some warnings mentioned in Islam

Adultery and fornication will be performed in the open
The consumption of intoxicants will be widespread (Bukhari & Muslim)

Adultery and fornication will be prevalent (The Prophet, peace be upon him, said that this has never happened without new diseases befalling the people, which their ancestors had not known.) (Bukhari, Muslim, Ibn Majah, & Al-Haythami)

Children of fornication will become widespread or prevalent (at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)

Episodes of sudden death will become widespread (Ahmad)

There will be people who will be brethren in public but enemies in secret (He was asked how that would come about and replied, "Because they will have ulterior motives in their mutual dealings and at the same time will fear one another.") (at-Tirmidhi)

When a man obeys his wife and disobeys his mother; and treats his friend kindly while shunning his father (at-Tirmidhi)

Leaders of people will be oppressors (Al-Haythami)

Men will begin to look like women and women will begin to look like men

Family ties will be cut (Ahmad)

There will be many women of child-bearing age who will no longer give birth.

When men lie with men and women lie with women (homosexuality/lesbianism) (Al-Haythami)

A man will leave his home and his thigh or hip will tell him what is happening back at his home (Ahmad)

When people begin to compete with others in the construction of taller buildings (Bukhari)

Women will be naked in spite of being dressed, these women will be led astray & will lead others astray (Muslim)

Earthquakes will increase (Bukhari & Muslim)

Wealth will increase so much so that if a man were given 10,000, he would not be content with it (Ahmad & Bukhari)

Female singers and musical instruments will become popular (at-Tirmidhi)
When singers become common (Al-Haythami)
People will dance late into the night

The people of Iraq will recieve no food and no money due to oppression by the Romans (Europeans) (Muslim)

Great distances will be traversed in short spans of time

People will walk in the marketplace with their thighs exposed

Miserliness will be thrown into the hearts of people (Bukhari)

When a trust becomes a means of making a profit (at-Tirmidhi, Al-Haythami)
Gains will be shared out only among the rich, with no benefit to the poor (at-Tirmidhi)

The disappearance of knowledge and the appearance of ignorance (Bukhari, Muslim, Ibn Majah, & Ahmad) .Books/writing will be widespread and (religious) knowledge will be low (Ahmad)

People will hop between the clouds and the earth

FearGod,
There are many signs that we are in the Last Days of this system of things. Consider some of the thing Paul wrote about, 2Tim 3:1-8. Are we not eyewitnesses to the fulfillment of these scriptures??
Most of the chapters of Matt 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21 tell about the things we would be experiencing just before Jesus will return to earth.
Probably the most important Temporal Sign for our time is the start of WW1. This was in 1914, and is a very significant year in Bible chronology.
Most of the book of Daniel is prophecy. Maybe the most important prophecy for our day was in Daniel, chapter 4, where it speaks of a great tree that would be cut down and banded for seven times. In some Bible prophecies days stand for years, Nem 14:34, Eze 4:5,6.
In the prophecy about the tree being cut down and banded for seven times, is a long range prophecy that was very difficult to place in time until after it was fulfilled.
The seven times were 360X7. They used 360 for the number of days in a year, there were seven years, so 360 X 7 = 2,520 years. The date that the prophecy started was when the tree was cut down, The tree pictures Theocratic Rule by God on earth. The nation of Israel was destroyed by Nebuchadrezzer in 607BC. That ended the rule of God on earth. When the tree was to be unbanded, that meant that Theocratic Rule would begin again, with Jesus as the King of God's Kingdom on earth.
The Bible shows us in several places exactly what would happen when Jesus would begin his Kingdom rule; WAR, Rev 6:2-4, 12:5-10,12. In the year that Jesus became King, war started in heaven, Satan was thrown down to earth, and war started. Is that not exactly what we could expect with Satan thrown down to earth and being very angry because he has a short time before he will be abyssed fro 1,000 years, Rev 20:1-3. Did you notice that 2,520 years from 607BC is 1914. There was no zero year before the common era started.
Jesus will rule for a few years in the middle of his enemies, then the end will come.

savagewind · Aug 28, 2012

The end has been near since God put enmity between the two seeds. Genesis 3:15

Can it be resolved ? Yes. Will it? No. Unless....

The hiding in caves is metaphor for what people have been going for eons. People expect heaven's description in prophesy of what man will do to be in the future. Prophesy is what has been happening between God and man forever. It is a picture of what IS.

What is hiding in caves? It is man's unwillingness to come to the light. It is their dependence on Earth, not Heaven. It is their attitude of wanting to save their own sorry but cakes. And those others they will let in THEIR cave.

Tbone · Aug 28, 2012

Muffled said:
He returns more than once. To which time are you referring?

LOL

Muffled · Aug 30, 2012

savagewind said:
The end has been near since God put enmity between the two seeds. Genesis 3:15

Can it be resolved ? Yes. Will it? No. Unless....

The hiding in caves is metaphor for what people have been going for eons. People expect heaven's description in prophesy of what man will do to be in the future. Prophesy is what has been happening between God and man forever. It is a picture of what IS.

What is hiding in caves? It is man's unwillingness to come to the light. It is their dependence on Earth, not Heaven. It is their attitude of wanting to save their own sorry but cakes. And those others they will let in THEIR cave.

True but God doesn't give up on people. He could completely destroy everyone but He leaves a remnant of evil men. The good news is that we get to evangelize them providing we are willing to leave our perfect enclave to do it.

Muffled · Aug 30, 2012

Tbone said:
LOL

I can understand why it is viewed as one time but there is a series of events. It is not the case that Jesus comes and stays the first time. His second visitation is not to the earth but upon the earth. It is only the last visitation that is permanent.

Muffled · Aug 30, 2012

jtartar said:
FearGod,
There are many signs that we are in the Last Days of this system of things. Consider some of the thing Paul wrote about, 2Tim 3:1-8. Are we not eyewitnesses to the fulfillment of these scriptures??
Most of the chapters of Matt 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21 tell about the things we would be experiencing just before Jesus will return to earth.
Probably the most important Temporal Sign for our time is the start of WW1. This was in 1914, and is a very significant year in Bible chronology.
Most of the book of Daniel is prophecy. Maybe the most important prophecy for our day was in Daniel, chapter 4, where it speaks of a great tree that would be cut down and banded for seven times. In some Bible prophecies days stand for years, Nem 14:34, Eze 4:5,6.
In the prophecy about the tree being cut down and banded for seven times, is a long range prophecy that was very difficult to place in time until after it was fulfilled.
The seven times were 360X7. They used 360 for the number of days in a year, there were seven years, so 360 X 7 = 2,520 years. The date that the prophecy started was when the tree was cut down, The tree pictures Theocratic Rule by God on earth. The nation of Israel was destroyed by Nebuchadrezzer in 607BC. That ended the rule of God on earth. When the tree was to be unbanded, that meant that Theocratic Rule would begin again, with Jesus as the King of God's Kingdom on earth.
The Bible shows us in several places exactly what would happen when Jesus would begin his Kingdom rule; WAR, Rev 6:2-4, 12:5-10,12. In the year that Jesus became King, war started in heaven, Satan was thrown down to earth, and war started. Is that not exactly what we could expect with Satan thrown down to earth and being very angry because he has a short time before he will be abyssed fro 1,000 years, Rev 20:1-3. Did you notice that 2,520 years from 607BC is 1914. There was no zero year before the common era started.
Jesus will rule for a few years in the middle of his enemies, then the end will come.

I disagree. I don't believe a proper exegesis of the text supports this. A proper exegesis shows that the end comes then Jesus rules for a 1,000 years.

This prophecy refers to the time that Nebuchadnezzar spent addled. It has nothing to do with our future.

savagewind · Aug 30, 2012

Muffled said:
I disagree. I don't believe a proper exegesis of the text supports this. A proper exegesis shows that the end comes then Jesus rules for a 1,000 years.

This prophecy refers to the time that Nebuchadnezzar spent addled. It has nothing to do with our future.

Why does Jesus rule for only 1000 years?

I think 1000 is a metaphor for something else. I wonder what it means? If it isn't literal and everyone is either 1. ignoring it or 2. defining it literally, then we will never know what it really means, will we?

When I was a Jehovah's Witness, the Religion, I asked a brother "how do JWs know the 1000 years hasn't started yet?" How do you know?

kylixguru · Aug 30, 2012

savagewind said:
Why does Jesus rule for only 1000 years?

I think 1000 is a metaphor for something else. I wonder what it means? If it isn't literal and everyone is either 1. ignoring it or 2. defining it literally, then we will never know what it really means, will we?

When I was a Jehovah's Witness, the Religion, I asked a brother "how do JWs know the 1000 years hasn't started yet?" How do you know?

I'd be happy to share what I have learned on the subject of Christ's Millennial reign.
I agree 1000 is a metaphor that deeper meanings can be drawn from, but I also see how it is literally a period of about a thousand years too.

kylixguru · Aug 30, 2012

jasonwill2 said:
Meek people are easier to control.

Please define a meek person as you see them. Seems to me you are confusing weakness with meekness.

As I understand it, meekness is a quality that makes people impossible to control. For one reason, they have zero hypocrisy. Meek people do not try and control anyone, so in their own mind nobody else has any right to try and control them, and because their own personal conduct is pure on that point, they cannot be defeated.

savagewind · Aug 30, 2012

I might not change my mind about the spiritual meaning of 1000.

Why do you believe it is a literal time period of years?

savagewind · Aug 30, 2012

I was taught that the wicked will be destroyed and then Jesus will rule for a thousand years to direct the transformation of Earth to Paradise.

Luke 20:42,43 seems to disagree with that scenario.

Acts 2:34-36 says God made him Lord and Savior. Please correct me if I am wrong. If their expectations are correct the scripture should say will make him...

kylixguru · Aug 30, 2012

savagewind said:
I might not change my mind about the spiritual meaning of 1000.

I don't worry about changing people's minds. I just like to share information and consider new thoughts.

savagewind said:
Why do you believe it is a literal time period of years?

There is a connection I'm exploring between Jesus and Adam and so it more or less has to do with the fact that Adam's lifespan was about 1,000 years and Adam was a King for that period of time.

I'm curious as to why Paul referred to Jesus as the spirit that quickens Adam and that by way of it becomes a second Adam.

I'd be interested in what you think of the relationship between Adam and Christ.

Curious George · Aug 31, 2012

kylixguru said:
Please define a meek person as you see them. Seems to me you are confusing weakness with meekness.

As I understand it, meekness is a quality that makes people impossible to control. For one reason, they have zero hypocrisy. Meek people do not try and control anyone, so in their own mind nobody else has any right to try and control them, and because their own personal conduct is pure on that point, they cannot be defeated.

Not so sure that nails down meekness. Submissive, gentle, humble, kind all of these can be synonyms for meek.

humble can then be connected with weak in that it is not strong and proud. So, the other poster was not too crazy in the suggestion.

savagewind · Aug 31, 2012

kylixguru said:
I don't worry about changing people's minds. I just like to share information and consider new thoughts.

There is a connection I'm exploring between Jesus and Adam and so it more or less has to do with the fact that Adam's lifespan was about 1,000 years and Adam was a King for that period of time.

I'm curious as to why Paul referred to Jesus as the spirit that quickens Adam and that by way of it becomes a second Adam.

I'd be interested in what you think of the relationship between Adam and Christ.

I don't. I have only ever considered the relationship between Abraham and Christ. Matthew 15:24 He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."
Romans 15:8 For I tell you that Christ has become a servant of the Jews on behalf of God's truth, to confirm the promises made to the patriarchs

I am not aware of any promises made to Adam.

kylixguru · Sep 5, 2012

FearGod said:
What is the signs of warning that the world is close to it's end according to your religion ?

As I understand the Bible it puts forward a creation that is merely a cycle so the end of one creation just puts you into another creation.

We are not facing the end of the cycle right now. We are currently in for another 1,000 years because we still have the 7th Day (Millennium) ahead of us.

What we are facing is the beginning of a new cycle right now. I have come to see that the Millennium is actually the end of one and the beginning of another simultaneously.

What this means is that we are soon to enter into a phase that follows the template of the Day 1 of Creation. There is a time of darkness and apostasy and chaos all around, but a light breaks fourth and the Father comes and establishes His Kingdom while everyone else who rejects the Father is part of the other kingdom that is also established during this period of time.

The Father's Kingdom shall be a Kingdom of individual sovereignty, much like the USA established but with even more of a theological component more like ancient Israel was back in its day. The people who inherit this kingdom are those who in and of themselves live in peace, harmony and prosperity because they are worthy of the freedoms they shall enjoy. The will look after the poor among them and intuitively do things keeping the well-being of the whole in mind at all times. This Kingdom is the solar or Celestial and it will be headquartered in the Jewish State of Israel and the United States once they are cleansed and sanctified in the coming judgments.

The Adversary's Kingdom shall be a Kingdom that has much the same appearance as the Father's Kingdom, except that it will be implemented using an all-powerful central government that will force all of its people into doing what it believes all the people should be doing in order to promote the well-being of the whole. This Kingdom will be the lunar kingdom and it shall be headquartered based upon who wins the battle for this segment of things. There are three primary contenders for this. Vatican, Communism/Marxism and Islam. It's not really that simple, but I predict that Islam will eventually be the only force that can stamp out the Illuminati forces behind the other factions. It also stands to reason that their religion carries the symbol of the moon and that this kingdom is ruled by the "lesser light to rule the night". It's also no accident that Christians have pointed out that the Islamic Al-Mahdi figure seems to fulfill their anti-Christ profile. The lunar light is the anti or reflected version. So, all Christians who claim they follow Jesus but who turn up their noses at the Father's Kingdom and reject it can look forward to being taken captive and converted to Islam or have their head chopped off. Same shall go for the Jews who reject the Messiah that comes as the prophet like unto Moses to deliver them from bondage.

Both kingdoms shall be more advanced and glorious compared to how things are right now. Those worthy of using their own choice will enjoy a far greater experience than those who have to be forced and managed by an all powerful nanny state. And, there will continue to be nations that more or less keep doing their own things for some time. It's not going to just be a miraculous snap of a finger and everything changes, though there will be a lot of rather drastic changes as all of this falls into place.

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