Christians - Porn=bad?

This is a continuation of an unfinished debate me and Chuck were having on AIM the other day. I said porn was bad, because it caused you to lust. Matthew 5:28 says that even lusting is considered adultery, and adultery is a sin in the Bible.

Chuck's rebuttle was that it was only adultery if you were married. He stated that it was adultery if you lusted after someone who was not your husband or your wife.

I said that the Bible made no distinction between married adultery and unmarried adultery. If you slept with someone who wasn't your husband or your wife it was adultery, and if you aren't married, everybody isn't your husband or wife, and therefore sleeping with anybody, whether extra- or pre-maritally, is considered adultery. Therefore, lusting after someone (through means of porn, for example), whether or not you were married, is still adultery. (Matt. 5:28) Chuck then inexplicably left our little AIM chat room, so I didn't get to finish this debate. I will now open it up to everybody, because I doubt he will be coming back.

Is porn bad even if you are not married? Is it bad if you are?

I don't believe it is a sin, but leads to sin. In James it states; 1:14- But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed. 15. Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death.

Isn't there a scripture about lust and commiting adultery in your heart? That's why I think that porn is a sin.

I believe it does make a distinction between the 2. Adultery is when you are married, fornication is sex when you are not married. Both are deemed sins.

Matt 5:28 - "whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."

It says adultery, but I would think that it would apply to fornication also.

I don't believe the Bible ever makes a distinction between unmarried sex and sex when you're married but without your wife when it talks of adultery. The Bible just says that adultery is illicit sex. It says nothing about marital status. That's a secular deffinition of adultery, and you're trying to fit that newer, secularised version of adultery to the older, Biblical meaning of adultery.

jonny said:

Matt 5:28 - "whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."

It says adultery, but I would think that it would apply to fornication also.

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Very well could. We might disagree with at what point it becomes a sin, but I believe we can both agree it's wrong, and will lead to sin (if not already a sin) Bottom line. Don't do it.

I tend to think that Matthew 2:28 applies to married people. It's hard to commit adultery when you aren't married in the first place. But that does not mean that it is ok for unmarried people to engage in it. No matter how you look at it, lust is wrong. Period.

1 John 3: 15Do not love the world nor the things in the world If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world. 17The world is passing away, and also its lusts; but the one who does the will of God lives forever.

Whether it is adultery or not, it is still a sin.

1st Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers... If it's the same, why did paul list it twice?

When paul speaks of "fornicators," he speaks of male prostitutes.

Aqualung said:

Is porn bad even if you are not married? Is it bad if you are?

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Bad ? I don't know about bad, but sinful, I think so, and yes, even if you are not married. But that's just me.:help:

Porn as we know it was not even thought of when the Bible was written.

Roman decorated their public rooms in their home Homes with what we would describe as pictures showing explicit sex.
This was considered perfectly normal decoration and not something to s****** over in corners.
They perhaps had a much healthier view of sex.
Pompeii was destroyed in 79AD and it was found every where there.

As to porn being a sin?... I rather doubt it.
Lusting after it might well be, and it may well lead to actual sin.

Secret Museums are full of ancient explicit pictures and sculpture, Which in their time were thought of as normal,
but which we are now afraid to show or look at.
Perhaps we are projecting our own guilt onto a subject that is God given and perfectly normal.

Terry______________________
Amen! Truly I say to you: Gather in my name. I am with you.

Aqualung said:

This is a continuation of an unfinished debate me and Chuck were having on AIM the other day. I said porn was bad, because it caused you to lust. Matthew 5:28 says that even lusting is considered adultery, and adultery is a sin in the Bible.

Chuck's rebuttle was that it was only adultery if you were married. He stated that it was adultery if you lusted after someone who was not your husband or your wife.

I said that the Bible made no distinction between married adultery and unmarried adultery. If you slept with someone who wasn't your husband or your wife it was adultery, and if you aren't married, everybody isn't your husband or wife, and therefore sleeping with anybody, whether extra- or pre-maritally, is considered adultery. Therefore, lusting after someone (through means of porn, for example), whether or not you were married, is still adultery. (Matt. 5:28) Chuck then inexplicably left our little AIM chat room, so I didn't get to finish this debate. I will now open it up to everybody, because I doubt he will be coming back.

Is porn bad even if you are not married? Is it bad if you are?

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I believe it is bad, because it causes a lot of harship and heartbreak when one finds out that the other is looking online for something that you could give them. If anyone want to PM me on this subject, I do have a lot to say, but I'm scatter-brained right now and trying to pack.

Aqualung said:

When paul speaks of "fornicators," he speaks of male prostitutes.

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I beg to differ. new revised standard lists as wrongdoers: fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, sodomites, thieves, .. Other versions use the word effeminate for male prostitutes, along with fornication and adulterers.

Terrywoodenpic said:

Porn as we know it was not even thought of when the Bible was written.

Roman decorated their public rooms in their home Homes with what we would describe as pictures showing explicit sex.
This was considered perfectly normal decoration and not something to s****** over in corners.
They perhaps had a much healthier view of sex.
Pompeii was destroyed in 79AD and it was found every where there.

As to porn being a sin?... I rather doubt it.
Lusting after it might well be, and it may well lead to actual sin.

Secret Museums are full of ancient explicit pictures and sculpture, Which in their time were thought of as normal,
but which we are now afraid to show or look at.
Perhaps we are projecting our own guilt onto a subject that is God given and perfectly normal.

Terry______________________
Amen! Truly I say to you: Gather in my name. I am with you.

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I never got to see the frescoes in Pompeii, I was too young to see them when I went. I guess I just don't like porn..........

Perhaps we are projecting our own guilt onto a subject that is God given and perfectly normal.

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This is one of the areas that I find difficult; we are animals, have animal instincts, but we are 'better' than animals. I can't help but think that we try to be better than we are; that is a pressure, and I am always confused by it.

jgallandt said:

I beg to differ. new revised standard lists as wrongdoers: fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, sodomites, thieves, .. Other versions use the word effeminate for male prostitutes, along with fornication and adulterers.

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Well, then, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. But, that's probably the only scripture that you can use. Against all the other ones, that pales.

Aqualung said:

Well, then, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. But, that's probably the only scripture that you can use. Against all the other ones, that pales.

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Agreed, lol. We can argue the meaning of words, but the thought that Paul was trying to convey, I think we can agree on.

Terrywoodenpic said:

As to porn being a sin?... I rather doubt it.
Lusting after it might well be, and it may well lead to actual sin.



Terry______________________
Amen! Truly I say to you: Gather in my name. I am with you.

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That's the point I was attempting to make in my 1st post!

Terrywoodenpic said:

Porn as we know it was not even thought of when the Bible was written.

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Fornication: in Greek it's "porneia" where the word porn comes from... illicit sexual intercourse and includes adultery.

But Solomon is considered one of the wisest men ever alive (i agree, read Proverbs). And he was with many women, a real pimp. And then what about Abraham and Hagar the woman he slept with before he had Isaac. She was not his wife and he was very favored by The Lord...

The Bible is very clear about adultery would never question that.
-"for jealousy is the rage of a man: therefore he will not spare in the day of vengeance. He will not regard any ranson; neither will he rest content, though thou givest many gift." Proverbs 6:43,35 kjv
-"for jealousy arouses a husband's fury, and he will show no mercy when he takes revenge. He will not accept any compensation; he will refuse the bribe, however great it is." Proverbs 6:34,35 niv

I have prayfully battled this sex before marrige thing for a long time. I can't find anywhere in the Bible where it says not be with someone you love. So if I'm truly in love with some one, is it realy wrong? *please note, I'm not saying going out to clubs and having a one night stand, thats plain obvious. But if you have love and your not getting carried away in just lust?

But on a end note
-"Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside the body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. Do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirt, who is in you... Therefore honor God with your body." 1 Corinthians 6:18-20

I don't think watching porn is a sin, as in "if one watch porn one goes to hell." But it certainly distances one from the pure spiritual world and further implants one into the material "lustful" world.