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Beyound the concept of Omni

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Absolute Zero

fon memories
Do you think that there lies something beyound The concept of Omni either looked at from a human point of view or from a theoritcal alien specieas ? Ex there are omni Gods and stuff in all religeons....proably through out all of the universe So what Im getting at is if you think that if a omni god exsisted do you think he could somehow through some uncomprehensaple way find something above him that goes beyound him.
 
Madhuri

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
What could possibly be greater than infinity? What could go beyond infinity?

If God is all-powerful, there cannot be something with more power.
If God is all-knowing, he/she/it already knows if there is or is not something 'other'.
If God is everywhere at once, nothing can be beyond his/her/its own self.

And why would the infinite need something more. And how can 'omni', meaning 'all', possibly lack anything? That would make the word/meaning redundant.
 
DreadFish

DreadFish

Cosmic Vagabond
If we are talking about something beyond conceptual confines and limitations, then there is no way to discuss or compare anything regarding it. Even infinity is a conceptual limitation.
 
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Absolute Zero

fon memories
DreadFish said:
If we are talking about something beyond conceptual confines and limitations, then there is no way to discuss or compare anything regarding it. Even infinity is a conceptual limitation.
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Which was what I was getting at. Moving beyound such notions would there be anything else...No could there be anything else ?
 
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Absolute Zero

fon memories
Madhuri said:
What could possibly be greater than infinity? What could go beyond infinity?

If God is all-powerful, there cannot be something with more power.
If God is all-knowing, he/she/it already knows if there is or is not something 'other'.
If God is everywhere at once, nothing can be beyond his/her/its own self.

And why would the infinite need something more. And how can 'omni', meaning 'all', possibly lack anything? That would make the word/meaning redundant.
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Infinite is a human concept no ? Dont you think it would be possable for some other ancient specieas to trancend that concept and relise theres something beyound even that ?
 
Penumbra

Penumbra

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Absolute Zero said:
Infinite is a human concept no ? Dont you think it would be possable for some other ancient specieas to trancend that concept and relise theres something beyound even that ?
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By definition, infinity would include it.

Limitless concepts like infinity, eternal, omni, are not sets that contain all currently known things in their respective categories. They're concepts that contain all things, known or unknown, in their respective categories.

One can't go beyond a definition that already includes whatever it is that you'll find anywhere.
 
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Absolute Zero

fon memories
So then if you so kindly will...could you tell me penumbra why there seems to be 4 or 5 set defintions/types of omni acknowledge by scholares/theologins ?This information was gathered from wikipedia and even though the website isnt realiable I still am cuorise about said notion
 
Sir Doom

Sir Doom

Cooler than most of you
If something "omni" found something "above" it, it would just cease to be "omni", or never really was anyway.
 
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839311

Well-Known Member
Madhuri said:
If God is all-powerful, there cannot be something with more power.
If God is all-knowing, he/she/it already knows if there is or is not something 'other'.
If God is everywhere at once, nothing can be beyond his/her/its own self.
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God could never be sure that he is all powerful, or all-knowing, or that he is everywhere at once. At best he could have power over everything that he knows exists. Whether or not there is more to reality beyond that which he knows, - perhaps much, much more - even God couldn't say. Mystery is a part of life, even Gods life. Assuming such a being exists, he is almost certainly aware of this fact.
 
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Absolute Zero

fon memories
How is mystery beyound the actual being G-d ? Wouldnt the actual state of being be True OMNI basically meaning the irrational is possable for the actual being yet if one were to take away the human way/concept/meaningf of the word there would have be something greater ie higher if there are specieas of higher intellict out there who go beyound are measily defintions and concepts. Ex The closer to the source of the orginal magic you would then grow /have the strongest magic .**** happens in fiction all the time(Hopefully this isnt confusing).
 
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839311

Well-Known Member
Absolute Zero said:
How is mystery beyound the actual being G-d ?
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Because he could never be sure that there isn't more of reality outside himself. It may be possible that God is omni-everything. He simply could never know for sure that he is. As far as anyone would know, the part of reality that he is in might only represent 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%.
 
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