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What Does "Feminism" Mean to You?

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
I'm rather curious what feminism means to different people. Please take a moment to describe what it means to you.
It is another group with a cause.
Like all groups there are all manner of members who run the full spectrum.

Like the ones who wear sweaters that are at least three sizes to small with no bra who jump up and down (literally) while complaining that men only stare at her boobs.

Then there are the ones who work their hind ends of day and night to make ends meat wishing they made the same as the guy right next to them doing the exact same job.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Like the ones who wear sweaters that are at least three sizes to small with no bra who jump up and down (literally) while complaining that men only stare at her boobs.
They were complaining? I didn't notice any sounds.

Then there are the ones who work their hind ends of day and night to make ends meat wishing they made the same as the guy right next to them doing the exact same job.
I worked with one who always showed up late, but left early to make up for it.
She also complained about racial discrimination.
Worry not, feminist friends....I will not generalize from her goofy views.
 

doppelganger

Through the Looking Glass
Just speaking from my personal experience and observations, my general impression is that men who feel threatened by or take a judgmental stance toward feminism both: (1) don't understand it, because they cannot or will not take the time to try to understand it, and (2) appear to be emotionally stunted and have had some experience or set of experiences that have made them hateful, fearful or distrustful of women.

I understand both problems (the first is an extension of the second), but as a matter of personal ethics, I refuse to offer excuses for adults acting like overgrown adolescents, nor do I enable it.

A man understands feminism and why it's a thing. Period.
 

Alceste

Vagabond
doppelgänger;2980966 said:
Just speaking from my personal experience and observations, my general impression is that men who feel threatened by or take a judgmental stance toward feminism both: (1) don't understand it, because they cannot or will not take the time to try to understand it, and (2) appear to be emotionally stunted and have had some experience or set of experiences that have made them hateful, fearful or distrustful of women.

I understand both problems (the first is an extension of the second), but as a matter of personal ethics, I refuse to offer excuses for adults acting like overgrown adolescents, nor do I enable it.

A man understands feminism and why it's a thing. Period.

I can't tell you how much I appreciate such a sentiment. It seems as though many young men are responding to our difficult economic times with thoughtless scapegoating, and feminists seem to be a trendy target.
 

MoonWater

Warrior Bard
Premium Member
How comfortable would men feel facing a decision made by a panel of women who would ultimately decide what is going to happen with your testicles? Here is a scenario.....a panel of women based on their individual morals decide that it's God's will to make men breeding machines only between the ages of 18-21, and then chemically castrate men in order to control population growth, mortality of fathers and better ensure a father's involvement in a child's life due to average age of life expectancy (no more new dads at age 80), and would make the infertility irreversable for the betterment of society and to protect the family structure.

I'd assume that men would quickly become very concerned about their own protections and rights over their own bodies.

But this is precisely what has been happening to women by a panel of men in government. In 2012. We have a ways to go before equal rights and protections are realized.

could you post some links or explain a bit more about this Mystic? What exactly is the government trying to pass as I haven't heard of anything like this?
 

MoonWater

Warrior Bard
Premium Member
In short: I see it as a movement that seeks to achieve equal rights for women and remove the system of patriarchy that has been in place for so long. This will have the added benefit of removing a lot of the oppression that men deal with as well.

I'll expand more on this later but right now I have to get to work.
 

Levite

Higher and Higher
I'm rather curious what feminism means to different people. Please take a moment to describe what it means to you.

It means that we must understand that women have historically been deprived of true equality by patriarchal societies, and knowing this, we must try to fix our own society and by extension future society, so that it offers equal rights and opportunities for everyone, regardless of gender.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
leading to kids being raised in child care centers... I think it's sad that for some, their career is more important than their children.
http://www.child-encyclopedia.com/pages/pdf/belskyangxp_rev-child_care.pdf



I was a stay at home mom. Since two of my three children are special needs- I had to remain one. I never regretted my decision. (Now that I want to find a job, it is difficult, although I went back to school to get an Associate's Degree, but I still don't regret it).
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
Allowing women to decide their own fates (education, health, careers). Granting full political, legal and social rights regardless of gender.

wa:do
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
I was a stay at home mom. Since two of my three children are special needs- I had to remain one. I never regretted my decision. (Now that I want to find a job, it is difficult, although I went back to school to get an Associate's Degree, but I still don't regret it).
I'm a stay at home mom as well, but I also plan on having a career as well.
I'm also having problems finding a job, but I hope that's more a function of the economy than my choice to stay at home.

What is unfortunate is that women are almost always forced to choose between a career and being a parent and it seems you are shamed no matter which way you choose. In this regard, Europe has the far better and more equitable system.

IMHO calling mothers who choose to have a career bad parents is a sick sad ploy... it's a hard enough choice as it is.

By the same token shaming women who choose to be stay at home mothers is pathetic.

wa:do
 

Rakhel

Well-Known Member
I'm a stay at home mom as well, but I also plan on having a career as well.
I'm also having problems finding a job, but I hope that's more a function of the economy than my choice to stay at home.

What is unfortunate is that women are almost always forced to choose between a career and being a parent and it seems you are shamed no matter which way you choose. In this regard, Europe has the far better and more equitable system.

IMHO calling mothers who choose to have a career bad parents is a sick sad ploy... it's a hard enough choice as it is.

By the same token shaming women who choose to be stay at home mothers is pathetic.

wa:do
^This^
 

MoonWater

Warrior Bard
Premium Member
I'm a stay at home mom as well, but I also plan on having a career as well.
I'm also having problems finding a job, but I hope that's more a function of the economy than my choice to stay at home.

What is unfortunate is that women are almost always forced to choose between a career and being a parent and it seems you are shamed no matter which way you choose. In this regard, Europe has the far better and more equitable system.

IMHO calling mothers who choose to have a career bad parents is a sick sad ploy... it's a hard enough choice as it is.

By the same token shaming women who choose to be stay at home mothers is pathetic.

wa:do

What is Europe's system that you are referring to.
 

nnmartin

Well-Known Member
That you should be able to be yourself and not having to worry about being descriminated or judged based on gender.

That is a clear oxymoron.

Men and women are naturally different so 'discrimination' is just as biology intended.

It's called human nature and the way of the world.

Women nurture babies, men provide the seed.
 
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