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What is Hell? Do you believe in a Hell? Outside of the Bible, what proof do we have that such a place exists?
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You crack me up Maize....... why add this to your question?Outside of the Bible, what proof do we have that such a place exists?
I don't know... just wondering... actually I should have phrased more like 'outside of Christianity, what other religions teach of such a place?'SOGFPP said:You crack me up Maize....... why add this to your question?
Close your eyes........ now, just using your vision, what proof do you have that the sky is blue?
Scott
I don't know... just wondering... actually I should have phrased more like 'outside of Christianity, what other religions teach of such a place?'
I'm pretty sure about this, but doesn't Judaism NOT believe in an afterlife?"The temperature of Heaven can be rather accurately computed. Our authority
is Isaiah 30:26, "Moreover, the light of the Moon shall be as the light of
the Sun and the light of the Sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven
days." Thus Heaven receives from the Moon as much radiation as we do from
the Sun, and in addition 7*7 (49) times as much as the Earth does from the
Sun, or 50 times in all. The light we receive from the Moon is one
1/10,000 of the light we receive from the Sun, so we can ignore that ...
The radiation falling on Heaven will heat it to the point where the heat
lost by radiation is just equal to the heat received by radiation, i.e.,
Heaven loses 50 times as much heat as the Earth by radiation. Using the
Stefan-Boltzmann law for radiation, (H/E)
temperature of the earth (-300K), gives H as 798K (525C). The exact
temperature of Hell cannot be computed ... [However] Revelations 21:8 says
"But the fearful, and unbelieving ... shall have their part in the lake
which burneth with fire and brimstone." A lake of molten brimstone means
that its temperature must be at or below the boiling point, 444.6C. We
have, then, that Heaven, at 525C is hotter than Hell at 445C."
[From "Applied Optics" vol. 11, A14, 1972]
Thats a good question other than the Judeo/Christian/Islamic religions who believes in Hell?
Ceridwen018 said:Yes, and brimstone and such.
Hehe, for all of you out there who take the bible literally:
I'm pretty sure about this, but doesn't Judaism NOT believe in an afterlife?
Nah, we're just extremely unclear on what it is. It's not very important to the religion, really, which focuses much more on this life. It's almost more of an, if you'll excuse the pun, afterthoughtCeridwen018 said:I'm pretty sure about this, but doesn't Judaism NOT believe in an afterlife?
the 'bible' actually teaches of no actual 'hell',
But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire
And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched. Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
HelpMe said:ps86:13?For great is thy lovingkindness toward me; And thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest Sheol.
de32:22?For a fire is kindled in mine anger, And burneth unto the lowest Sheol, And devoureth the earth with its increase, And setteth on fire the foundations of the mountains.
those?the 'bible' actually teaches of no actual 'hell', it is metaphorical for not living.
'hell' is not a biblical word.
Jeremiah 10:24"O [yhwh], correct me, but in measure: not in thine anger, lest thou bring me to nothing."
For hell is exactly what your verses say it is... a "correcting place" Jer. 10:24
For great is thy lovingkindness toward me; And thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest Sheol.
Psalms 31:17"Let me not be ashamed, [yhwh]; for I have called upon thee: let the wicked be ashamed, and let them be silent in the grave".
de32:22?For a fire is kindled in mine anger, And burneth unto the lowest Sheol, And devoureth the earth with its increase, And setteth on fire the foundations of the mountains.
The main dogma of "Hell" was instituted by the Roman Catholic Church to instill FEAR into the laity for many reasons! Protestants have just carried it over!