Buddha proved- the truthful Religion is not man-made

paarsurrey · May 15, 2012

The atheists/agnostics/skeptics hold that religion is man-made.This is far from being correct; all revealed religions came from the Creator God.

Buddha, for one, with his own example rescinding power and rule for enlightenment not once but twice proves that the truthful religion is not for amassing power or for exploitation of the people or for fleecing money from them. It is for a higher purpose.

Buddha thus refuted Christopher Hitchens' assertion that religion is manmade; it is a boon from the Creator God.

Sunstone · May 15, 2012

paarsurrey said:
The atheists/agnostics/skeptics hold that religion is man-made.This is far from being correct; all revealed religions came from the Creator God.

Buddha, for one, with his own example rescinding power and rule for enlightenment not once but twice proves that the truthful religion is not for amassing power or for exploitation of the people or for fleecing money from them. It is for a higher purpose.

Buddha thus refuted Christopher Hitchens assertion that religion is manmade; it is a boon from the Creator God.

And your conclusion follows from your premise...how?

tumbleweed41 · May 15, 2012

Was the Buddha not a man?

paarsurrey · May 15, 2012

Sunstone said:
And your conclusion follows from your premise...how?

Buddha taught his teachings only after enlightenment/revelation; that shows that he did not invent any religion, he discovered it.

Gjallarhorn · May 15, 2012

paarsurrey said:
Buddha taught his teachings only after enlightenment/revelation; that shows that he did not invent any religion, he discovered it.

And how does this discovery require the existence of a Creator God the Buddha himself denied repeatedly?

Tathagata · May 15, 2012

The Buddha: "Who is it that shapes our lives? Is it God, a personal creator? If God be the maker, all living things should have silently to submit to their maker's power. They would be like vessels formed by the potter's hand. If the world had been made by God there should be no such thing as sorrow, or calamity, or sin; for both pure and impure deeds must come from him. If not, there would be another cause beside him, and he would not be the self-existent one. Thus, you see, the thought of God is overthrown."
[Culla Vagga 6:2]

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Twilight Hue · May 15, 2012

paarsurrey said:
The atheists/agnostics/skeptics hold that religion is man-made.This is far from being correct; all revealed religions came from the Creator God.

Buddha, for one, with his own example rescinding power and rule for enlightenment not once but twice proves that the truthful religion is not for amassing power or for exploitation of the people or for fleecing money from them. It is for a higher purpose.

Buddha thus refuted Christopher Hitchens assertion that religion is manmade; it is a boon from the Creator God.

LOL. Buddha never exemplified anything.

FearGod · May 15, 2012

paarsurrey said:
The atheists/agnostics/skeptics hold that religion is man-made.This is far from being correct; all revealed religions came from the Creator God.

Buddha, for one, with his own example rescinding power and rule for enlightenment not once but twice proves that the truthful religion is not for amassing power or for exploitation of the people or for fleecing money from them. It is for a higher purpose.

Buddha thus refuted Christopher Hitchens assertion that religion is manmade; it is a boon from the Creator God.

Buddha was pushing people to the straight path,he was enlighten by god,
but wasn't a messenger,but from the student questioning Buddha,then we
can understand that god is the same one

One of his students asked Buddha, "Are you the messiah?"
"No", answered Buddha.
"Then are you a healer?"
"No", Buddha replied.
"Then are you a teacher?" the student persisted.
"No, I am not a teacher."
"Then what are you?" asked the student, exasperated.
"I am awake", Buddha replied.

One of his sayings

"Neither fire nor wind, birth nor death can erase our good deeds"

That means our good deeds will be recorded for the afterlife

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Buddhists should come to Islam - YouTube

Gjallarhorn · May 15, 2012

trruth said:
Budda was pushing people to the straight path,he was enlighten by god,
but wasn't a messenger,but from the student questioning Budda,then we
can understand that god is the same one

One of his students asked Buddha, "Are you the messiah?"
"No", answered Buddha.
"Then are you a healer?"
"No", Buddha replied.
"Then are you a teacher?" the student persisted.
"No, I am not a teacher."
"Then what are you?" asked the student, exasperated.
"I am awake", Buddha replied.

One of his sayings

"Neither fire nor wind, birth nor death can erase our good deeds"

That means our good deeds will be recorded for the afterlife

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Buddhists should come to Islam - YouTube

That's very nice, but Buddha taught that all things are impermanent, including afterlives.

mycorrhiza · May 15, 2012

You are assuming that his enlightment was a real thing.

I could argue that Jesus proved that Christianity is the right religion by saying it, because he was God and thus wasn't wrong, but it wouldn't be a very good argument.

Jainarayan · May 15, 2012

tumbleweed41 said:
Was the Buddha not a man?

Technically no. Not if one believes he is an avatara of Vishnu: God taking human form, as did other avatara.

Twilight Hue · May 15, 2012

mycorrhiza said:
You are assuming that his enlightment was a real thing.

I hear they are actually bottling that stuff now. Been meaning to try it myself. Should give Coke-a-Cola a good run for it's money. ;0)

Gjallarhorn · May 15, 2012

TouchedbytheLord said:
Technically no. Not if one believes he is an avatara of Vishnu: God taking human form, as did other avatara.

Dona Sutta: With Dona

I think he would disagree.

paarsurrey · May 15, 2012

mycorrhiza said:
You are assuming that his enlightment was a real thing.

Yes, Buddha's enlightenment was real, as with that Buddha got immersed in Truth; his fight against Mara or the Evil-One finished with that; and only at that stage he started telling people of his Middle Path he walked on to reach ONE- the Absolute Truth.

I think Buddha's enlightenment was a real thing.

paarsurrey · May 15, 2012

mycorrhiza said:
I could argue that Jesus proved that Christianity is the right religion by saying it, because he was God and thus wasn't wrong, but it wouldn't be a very good argument.

Neither Jesus was the Creator God nor Buddha; they were both humans and obediently served the religion they brought from the Creator God for humanity; that is why we see so many similarities in their teachings.

My argument is not wrong.

paarsurrey · May 15, 2012

Gjallarhorn said:
That's very nice, but Buddha taught that all things are impermanent, including afterlives.

There I agree with Buddha; other things derive existence from the Creator God; hence other things in that real sense have no permanence.

paarsurrey · May 15, 2012

trruth said:
One of his students asked Buddha, "Are you the messiah?"
"No", answered Buddha.

How did Buddha come to know about Messiah?

Jesus the Messiah or the Christ was born about 500 years after Buddha.

Citation for the above quote from Buddha, please.

paarsurrey · May 15, 2012

trruth said:
One of his sayings

"Neither fire nor wind, birth nor death can erase our good deeds"

That means our good deeds will be recorded for the afterlife

I agree with you that Buddha believed in the afterlife and the heaven.

However, good deeds should be done irrespective of the heaven or hell; good deeds should be done in love of the Creator God and in love of the humanity.

paarsurrey · May 15, 2012

TouchedbytheLord said:
Technically no. Not if one believes he is an avatara of Vishnu: God taking human form, as did other avatara.

I don't agree with you.

I think that is a misunderstanding of Buddha; when self is purified from the evils of Mara, the image of the Absolute Virtue is created in the person, like a mirror attributes of the Creator God are reflected in such a person, but mirror is a mirror not the original Immortal-Being.

mycorrhiza · May 15, 2012

paarsurrey said:
Neither Jesus was the Creator God nor Buddha; they were both humans and obediently served the religion they brought from the Creator God for humanity; that is why we see so many similarities in their teachings.

My argument is not wrong.

There are many differences between their teachings, like Jesus saying that the ONLY way to God is through him.

Your argument is based on you being right, which isn't necessarily the case. Saying that Buddha proved that religion isn't man-made because you believe that Buddha was enlightened and that his words were true isn't a very good argument. You must first show proof that Buddha was enlightened and explain why his words are true.

Is there really a creator God in Buddhism? Because I've never heard about there being one. Several Gods that are lesser than Buddha, but no creator God.

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