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Socialist Extremists: Why Money?

The Sum of Awe

The Sum of Awe

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I gotten into an argument with a Socialist, and he completely dodged this response:

Him: Everyone need not be equal in their human characteristics, but the artificiality of our monetary system only adds fuel to the fire.

Me: Then the concept of money would be pointless, make everything free then, and nobody will do a thing.
 
Iti oj

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
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The Sum of Awe said:
I gotten into an argument with a Socialist, and he completely dodged this response:

Him: Everyone need not be equal in their human characteristics, but the artificiality of our monetary system only adds fuel to the fire.

Me: Then the concept of money would be pointless, make everything free then, and nobody will do a thing.
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no t at all socialism is about making sure everybody needs are meet and equally done.
But maybe you want a tattoo or something extra you do not need or a brand name instead of basic or etc.
 
The Sum of Awe

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Iti oj said:
no t at all socialism is about making sure everybody needs are meet and equally done.
But maybe you want a tattoo or something extra you do not need or a brand name instead of basic or etc.
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If that's the case, as long as everybody's needs are equally done, then what's the point of money?
 
Pegg

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
The Sum of Awe said:
I gotten into an argument with a Socialist, and he completely dodged this response:

Him: Everyone need not be equal in their human characteristics, but the artificiality of our monetary system only adds fuel to the fire.

Me: Then the concept of money would be pointless, make everything free then, and nobody will do a thing.
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can you think of any other animal on the planet that charges its members an illusion to participate in life?
 
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freethinker44

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The Sum of Awe said:
Me: Then the concept of money would be pointless, make everything free then, and nobody will do a thing.
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Tell that to the hoards of people who create and modify open-source software. I don't think they got the memo because they are cranking out free software like crazy.
 
T-Dawg

T-Dawg

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If I were to give you free bread, would that make your money worthless for the purpose of buying cake?
 
Sunstone

Sunstone

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Socialism is an economic system in which the means of production are publicly owned. What's that have to do with this thread?
 
Hevenly Heathen

Hevenly Heathen

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The Sum of Awe said:
I gotten into an argument with a Socialist, and he completely dodged this response:

Him: Everyone need not be equal in their human characteristics, but the artificiality of our monetary system only adds fuel to the fire.

Me: Then the concept of money would be pointless, make everything free then, and nobody will do a thing.
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Are we debunking you, or Him?

I agree with Him. People have used trade before. Coming to a mutual agreement on what goods/services to be traded. It happens even today. It doesn't involve money.
 
Pegg

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
Hevenly Heathen said:
Are we debunking you, or Him?

I agree with Him. People have used trade before. Coming to a mutual agreement on what goods/services to be traded. It happens even today. It doesn't involve money.
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thats a good point, we used to trade with the goods we created or made ourselves. People worked for themselves so that they could have something to trade.

now we dont have to create or make anything, we only need this little bit of metal or paper and we can buy things with that.

if anything, it is money which has killed our incentive to get creative and be motivated and industrious.
 
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Yerda

Yerda

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Sunstone said:
Socialism is an economic system in which the means of production are publicly owned. What's that have to do with this thread?
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I would consider private ownership of the means of production by the workers to be socialism in some cases.
 
nnmartin

nnmartin

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The Sum of Awe said:
I gotten into an argument with a Socialist, and he completely dodged this response:

Him: Everyone need not be equal in their human characteristics, but the artificiality of our monetary system only adds fuel to the fire.

Me: Then the concept of money would be pointless, make everything free then, and nobody will do a thing.
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It comes down to ' a fair day's pay for a fair day's work'.

So if someone does a 12 hour shift in a factory and only brings home a few dollars for basic subsistence, whilst the owner rakes in huge profits, then something is wrong.
 
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