cfer said:
How would you classify a person who has a belief in God, but not necessarily in Jesus? Or, that there was a person named Jesus who taught about God, but not necessarily that Jesus was the savior?
Would you classify that as Jewish?
I ask because this is kind of where I feel I am leaning. I believe in a kind, gentle, and loving God. I believe there was a man named Jesus who was a great leader and teacher of peace and God, and that he was actually crucified. But I don't know if I believe in the Resurrection. I'm not saying it's not possible. I'm just saying I don't know.
Forgive me if I'm wrong on this, but I know people of the Jewish faith believe Jesus was not the savior, also. But it is also my understanding that the Jewish God is the one of the Old Testament -- the vengeful, wrathful, jealous God. That's not how I picture Him.
Which leads me to my problem. I don't know where/how to worship. I can't really go to any Christian church, because Christianity is based off the teachings of Jesus, and they believe Jesus was resurrected.
I wouldn't consider myself Jewish because I don't believe that God is vengeful and that strict, either.
Anyone have any thoughts?
I'm sorry if I offended anyone with any incorrect knowledge on the subjects above.
It depends upon what you mean as "resurrection". I believe that the Spirit of Christ appeared to His followers in whatever body God pleased to make it manifest. As to the physical remains of Christ - what does it matter. There was another even MORE important resurrection that day. I'll let Abdu'l Baha explain it:
"THE RESURRECTION OF CHRIST
Question. -- What is the meaning of Christ's resurrection after three days?
Answer. -- The resurrections of the Divine Manifestations are not of the body. All Their states, Their conditions, Their acts, the things They have established, Their teachings, Their expressions, Their parables and Their instructions have a spiritual and divine signification, and have no connection with material things. For example, there is the subject of Christ's coming from heaven: it is clearly stated in many places in the Gospel that the Son of man came from heaven, He is in heaven, and He will go to heaven. So in chapter 6, verse 38, of the Gospel of John it is written: "For I came down from heaven"; and also in verse 42 we find: "And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?" Also in John, chapter 3, verse 13: "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but He that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven."
Observe that it is said, "The Son of man is in heaven," while at that time Christ was on earth. Notice also that it is said that Christ came from heaven, though He came from the womb of Mary, and His body was born of Mary. It is clear, then, that when it is said that the Son of man is come from heaven, this has not an outward but an inward signification; it is a spiritual, not a material, fact. The meaning is that though, apparently, Christ was born from 104 the womb of Mary, in reality He came from heaven, from the center of the Sun of Reality, from the Divine World, and the Spiritual Kingdom. And as it has become evident that Christ came from the spiritual heaven of the Divine Kingdom, therefore, His disappearance under the earth for three days has an inner signification and is not an outward fact. In the same way, His resurrection from the interior of the earth is also symbolical; it is a spiritual and divine fact, and not material; and likewise His ascension to heaven is a spiritual and not material ascension.
Beside these explanations, it has been established and proved by science that the visible heaven is a limitless area, void and empty, where innumerable stars and planets revolve.
Therefore, we say that the meaning of Christ's resurrection is as follows: the disciples were troubled and agitated after the martyrdom of Christ. The Reality of Christ, which signifies His teachings, His bounties, His perfections and His spiritual power, was hidden and concealed for two or three days after His martyrdom, and was not resplendent and manifest. No, rather it was lost, for the believers were few in number and were troubled and agitated. The Cause of Christ was like a lifeless body; and when after three days the disciples became assured and steadfast, and began to serve the Cause of Christ, and resolved to spread the divine teachings, putting His counsels into practice, and arising to serve Him, the Reality of Christ became resplendent and His bounty appeared; His religion found life; His teachings and His admonitions became evident and visible. In other words, the Cause of Christ was like a lifeless body until the life and the bounty of the Holy Spirit surrounded it.
Such is the meaning of the resurrection of Christ, and this was a true resurrection. But as the clergy have neither understood the meaning of the Gospels nor comprehended 105 the symbols, therefore, it has been said that religion is in contradiction to science, and science in opposition to religion, as, for example, this subject of the ascension of Christ with an elemental body to the visible heaven is contrary to the science of mathematics. But when the truth of this subject becomes clear, and the symbol is explained, science in no way contradicts it; but, on the contrary, science and the intelligence affirm it"
(Abdu'l-Baha, Some Answered Questions, p. 104)
Regards,
Scott
