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Allah the Arabic name of GOD

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zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend Godobeyer,

Kindly enlighten us:
If you say God and Allah are the just two ways of labeling the same entity then why do muslims never accept any other labels for Allah like God or Brahman??

Love & rgds
 

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
This word which some western people hate it (especialy the Christians) , and they insulting/mock it all the time .
In my experience (history) in chat with non-muslims , some people refer it to Idol , and some others said to Allah mean the moon , some said it's mean "camel" ....etc

as you knw Arabic is semitic langauge , it's a sister with Aramaic and Hebrew ,
the Aramaic is the langauge of Jesus (pbuh) ,and Hebrew is language OT

In Aramaic Jesus (pbuh) called God "Elahi" , and Hebrew they called God "Eloah"


I don't blame the atheists if they insult Allah/God , because they don't believe in God/Allah any way .
what i blame here some christians , and some believers in God/Allah in other religions .

As an Atheist I can tell you I don't mock it. I've actually been in debates saying the same thing how Allah, Elahi and Eloah are pretty much the same.

[youtube]NqHdVhVGwK8[/youtube]
Hebrew speaking Jew says Allah is God - YouTube
 
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Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Thanks for the chat, but I don't care to expand on it - just wanted you to understand my opinion....

... I have killed so many Muslims in my life -- and just continue to pray moderate folks like you continue to gain influence so the killing may end.

Peace be with you,
S
edited : I understand your opinion as well ,and you right about the fear about Islam in the west , any way me too ,i hope that you recieve/understand my opinions .

I don't have to kill anyone , only in defence.....
just as last note , for my personal experience
i am Algerian , i am study in university , my university is close (neighbore) of Air Base army ,we always hearing the the noise of the planes , it's very harsh sound , in that time i always remember the Iraqi people whom suffring by this sound from 1991 until this year !!! i am not talking about the fearing/scare about hitted by missile by the plane , i am just talking about the wicked sound of the planes when they fly over you maybe every day , for more than 15 years of war and seige!!!
 
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Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
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Friend Godobeyer,

Kindly enlighten us:
If you say God and Allah are the just two ways of labeling the same entity then why do muslims never accept any other labels for Allah like God or Brahman??

Love & rgds
hi zenzero
because Allah is arabic proper noun of God , then we the muslims have to pray God in arabic because the Quran is Arabic , it's not permission to pray to God (the 5 Prayers) in other langauge then Arabic , which mean the practice of the Salat (pray) is should be in Arabic .

this is the Salat :
Salat - Recherche Google

and there is other kind of praying , which mean is asking ,for exemple , asking God to save you or to the remedy you if you are sick .... this pray (asking ) is by any language .
this is an images explain it
الدعاء - Recherche Google

the first Pray (Salat ) is obligation , which mean the Muslim used to called God "Allah" 5 times in the day , which means that he read verses of Quran and his prayers (practices) in Arabic which contain the name of God (ALLAH), it's not acceptable to do the Salat by any other langauge , only in Arabic .

the conclusion : it's obligation for the muslims to called God in arabic "ALLAH"
 
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Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
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Plato

Member
Skimmed the Thread....You guys all do understand that 'Allah' is not a proper name like Joe or Pete right?
That it's just the English word 'God' or 'the God' (meaning the 'only' God, the same God as Jews and Christians) in the Arabic language. No one would think that the Arabic word for 'God' would be the English word 'God' would they? In English it's 'God' in Arabic it's 'Allah', the exact same thing translated into 2 languages.
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
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In bosnia it wqs the christians who were the aggrsores.
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
Super - wasn't giving a history lesson, just my personal experience....

And im calling you out on false info/reprensentation. it was the christian serbs commiting all the atrocities.
 

Scott1

Well-Known Member
And im calling you out on false info/reprensentation. it was the christian serbs commiting all the atrocities.
Again you are missing the point - you can't call me out on my personal experience -- and since I never stated the hate that was presented to me was caused by Muslims starting anything, you are intentionally trying to be rude or trying to muddy the waters. Either way, I don't appreciate it.
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
Again you are missing the point - you can't call me out on my personal experience -- and since I never stated the hate that was presented to me was caused by Muslims starting anything, you are intentionally trying to be rude or trying to muddy the waters. Either way, I don't appreciate it.

Well it sounded to me like you were tying to use an attrosity commited against muslims to justify islomophobia and I don't apprecate that. If it was not your intent im sorry, but I needed to clarify for our fellow readers.
 

Scott1

Well-Known Member
No problem... That's why I stated several times it was evidence of nothing but my PERSONAL experience in Muslim populations.

I certainly would never intentionally misrepresent an attrosity... members of my church are being killed daily by Muslims -- I take this subject seriously.

Peace be with you.
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
Love peace and hapiness scott .. I would join you in your pray for peace and moderates
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Skimmed the Thread....You guys all do understand that 'Allah' is not a proper name like Joe or Pete right?
That it's just the English word 'God' or 'the God' (meaning the 'only' God, the same God as Jews and Christians) in the Arabic language. No one would think that the Arabic word for 'God' would be the English word 'God' would they? In English it's 'God' in Arabic it's 'Allah', the exact same thing translated into 2 languages.

from wiki :

According to Islamic belief, Allah is the proper name of God,[27] and humble submission to His Will, Divine Ordinances and Commandments is the pivot of the Muslim faith.[5] "He is the only God, creator of the universe, and the judge of humankind."[5][6] "He is unique (wāḥid) and inherently one (ʾaḥad), all-merciful and omnipotent."[5] The Qur'an declares "the reality of Allah, His inaccessible mystery, His various names, and His actions on behalf of His creatures."[5]


but it's absolutly as you said , it's "God " in English and it's "Allah" in Arabic , it's the smae thing.(context)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah#cite_note-Britannica-4



 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
As an Atheist I can tell you I don't mock it. I've actually been in debates saying the same thing how Allah, Elahi and Eloah are pretty much the same.

[youtube]NqHdVhVGwK8[/youtube]
Hebrew speaking Jew says Allah is God - YouTube

Thank you Dirty Penguin for this information by youtube,you make it clear how allah is the same
for jews and muslims,but i hope to know where the word god came from,
since the actual name for god in both jews and muslim are similar.
 
allah might mean God but the greeks and the romans and many others had things given the title gods, does this mean they are all the same person?
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
allah might mean God but the greeks and the romans and many others had things given the title gods, does this mean they are the all the same person?

No. Those are gods not God see mt post about illah fore more info
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Well it sounded to me like you were tying to use an attrosity commited against muslims to justify islomophobia and I don't apprecate that. If it was not your intent im sorry, but I needed to clarify for our fellow readers.

Persons are known from their tongues,you are a real gentleman and i do appreciate you
for being sincere and honest,thank you Iti oj :)
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Thanks for the chat, but I don't care to expand on it - just wanted you to understand my opinion....

... I have killed so many Muslims in my life -- and just continue to pray moderate folks like you continue to gain influence so the killing may end.

Peace be with you,
S

i know who are you now,
you are RAMBO

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