Ardhanariswar
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i found this on the Christian forum.
"1) The Messiah is preceded by Elijah the prophet who, with the Messiah, unifies the family (Malachi 4:5-6), which is contradicted by Jesus in Matthew 10:34-37.
2) The Messiah re-establishes the Davidic dynasty through the messiah's own children (Daniel 7:13-14). But Jesus had no children.
3) The Messiah brings an eternal peace between all nations, between all peoples, and between all people (Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-4; Ezekiel 39:9). Obviously there is no peace. Furthermore, Jesus said that his purpose in coming was to bring a sword, and not peace (see Matthew 10:34, as referenced above.)
4) The Messiah brings about the universal world-wide conversion of all peoples to Judaism, or at least to Ethical Monotheism (Jeremiah 31:31-34; Zechariah 8:23; Isaiah 11:9; Zechariah 14:9,16). But the world remains steeped in idolatry.
5) The Messiah brings about an end to all forms of idolatry (Zechariah 13:2). But the world remains steeped in idolatry.
6) The Messiah brings about a universal recognition that the Jewish idea of God is God (Isaiah 11:9). But the world remains steeped in idolatry.
7) The Messiah leads the world to become vegetarian (Isaiah 11:6-9). It isn't.
8) The Messiah gathers to Israel, all of the twelve tribes (Ezekiel 36:24). Many of the ten lost tribes remain lost.
9) The Messiah rebuilds The Temple (Isaiah 2:2; Ezekiel 37:26-28). It hasn't been rebuilt.
10) There will be no more famine (Ezekiel 36:29-30). People starve to death every day.
11) After the Messiah comes, death will eventually cease (Isaiah 25:8). People die every day.
12) Eventually the dead will be resurrected (Isaiah 26:19; Daniel 12:2; Ezekiel 37:12-13; Isaiah 43:5-6);
13) The nations of the earth will help the Jews, materially (Isaiah 60:5-6; 60:10-12;
14) The Jews will be sought out for spiritual guidance (Zechariah 8:23);
15) All weapons will be destroyed (Ezekiel 39:9,12);
16) The Nile will run dry (Isaiah 11:15)
17) Monthly, the trees of Israel will yield their fruit (Ezekiel 47:12);
Each tribe of Israel will receive and settle their inherited land (Ezekiel 47:13-13);
18) The nations of the earth will recognize that they have been wrong, that the Jews have been right, and that the sins of the Gentile nations, their persecutions and the murders they committed, have been borne by the Jewish people (Isaiah 53)
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so is Jesus the messiah? can any christians on this forum give any arguments to cover these predictions of the Messiah, as "Well, its going to happen...soon...i think..."
maybe the Jews were right. maybe the messiah has not cometh yet.
"1) The Messiah is preceded by Elijah the prophet who, with the Messiah, unifies the family (Malachi 4:5-6), which is contradicted by Jesus in Matthew 10:34-37.
2) The Messiah re-establishes the Davidic dynasty through the messiah's own children (Daniel 7:13-14). But Jesus had no children.
3) The Messiah brings an eternal peace between all nations, between all peoples, and between all people (Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-4; Ezekiel 39:9). Obviously there is no peace. Furthermore, Jesus said that his purpose in coming was to bring a sword, and not peace (see Matthew 10:34, as referenced above.)
4) The Messiah brings about the universal world-wide conversion of all peoples to Judaism, or at least to Ethical Monotheism (Jeremiah 31:31-34; Zechariah 8:23; Isaiah 11:9; Zechariah 14:9,16). But the world remains steeped in idolatry.
5) The Messiah brings about an end to all forms of idolatry (Zechariah 13:2). But the world remains steeped in idolatry.
6) The Messiah brings about a universal recognition that the Jewish idea of God is God (Isaiah 11:9). But the world remains steeped in idolatry.
7) The Messiah leads the world to become vegetarian (Isaiah 11:6-9). It isn't.
8) The Messiah gathers to Israel, all of the twelve tribes (Ezekiel 36:24). Many of the ten lost tribes remain lost.
9) The Messiah rebuilds The Temple (Isaiah 2:2; Ezekiel 37:26-28). It hasn't been rebuilt.
10) There will be no more famine (Ezekiel 36:29-30). People starve to death every day.
11) After the Messiah comes, death will eventually cease (Isaiah 25:8). People die every day.
12) Eventually the dead will be resurrected (Isaiah 26:19; Daniel 12:2; Ezekiel 37:12-13; Isaiah 43:5-6);
13) The nations of the earth will help the Jews, materially (Isaiah 60:5-6; 60:10-12;
14) The Jews will be sought out for spiritual guidance (Zechariah 8:23);
15) All weapons will be destroyed (Ezekiel 39:9,12);
16) The Nile will run dry (Isaiah 11:15)
17) Monthly, the trees of Israel will yield their fruit (Ezekiel 47:12);
Each tribe of Israel will receive and settle their inherited land (Ezekiel 47:13-13);
18) The nations of the earth will recognize that they have been wrong, that the Jews have been right, and that the sins of the Gentile nations, their persecutions and the murders they committed, have been borne by the Jewish people (Isaiah 53)
"
so is Jesus the messiah? can any christians on this forum give any arguments to cover these predictions of the Messiah, as "Well, its going to happen...soon...i think..."
maybe the Jews were right. maybe the messiah has not cometh yet.