Well, I can only speak for myself. But I don't hate christians. I hate what their religion teaches.
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Well, I can only speak for myself. But I don't hate christians. I hate what their religion teaches.
darkendless
Guardian of Asgaard
I hate Christians (as currently the only religion, Mormons as well) who will bother me in my own residence to try and sell their religion to me.
Now i'm sure they're nice people but I hate their complete lack of respect for my privacy and my right to relax on the weekend without them arrogantly shoving God down my throat.
I have no doubt their intentions are pure but it would be nice if they thought of the peoples lives they're rudely intruding upon and not themselves.
Now i'm sure they're nice people but I hate their complete lack of respect for my privacy and my right to relax on the weekend without them arrogantly shoving God down my throat.
I have no doubt their intentions are pure but it would be nice if they thought of the peoples lives they're rudely intruding upon and not themselves.
JMorris
Democratic Socialist
if a person hates christianity in its entirety, its teachings, its history, its present position in the world, the actions of its followers, can a self described christian feel anything but hate from that person?
i hate everything you believe in, your traditions, your history, the meaning in your life, ect. but i think your great! can both be true? sometimes.
i dont hate all christians, but a good number of them i do. and those i dont hate, i often consider "bad christians", as i dont find christianity compatible with being a good person.
if a person told me they hated liberals, but thought i was ok, id wonder why. im extremely liberal. and if they felt that way, i certainly wouldnt like them, regardless of how they felt about me personally.
i hate everything you believe in, your traditions, your history, the meaning in your life, ect. but i think your great! can both be true? sometimes.
i dont hate all christians, but a good number of them i do. and those i dont hate, i often consider "bad christians", as i dont find christianity compatible with being a good person.
if a person told me they hated liberals, but thought i was ok, id wonder why. im extremely liberal. and if they felt that way, i certainly wouldnt like them, regardless of how they felt about me personally.
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Third the emotion!
i may be passionate when I debate and denounce, but I like you ChristineES
Thanks, you guys.
JustWondering
Jerk
I used to be a christian so I understand where they are coming from and their mindset. I certainly don't hate them. I view my loss of christian faith as a step in my maturity. Like when I stopped believing in santa claus. It was nice for awhile, believing there was a god that loved me and a paradise I would chill in for eternity after I died but eventually I had to admit it is all fantasy. If others want to believe in the fantasy and they don't try to ram it down other peoples throats, I could care less what faith they have.
Renji
Well-Known Member
I'm pretty sure that a lot of people hate Christians, for some reasons, but there are also some who don't hate Christians, but hate Christianity. There can be also some folks who hate both. But then again, we can't please everybody and it's a "problem" that is not exclusive to Christianity. What's important is that we don't "fight" flame by another flame and darkness by another darkness. If someone throws a stone against us, we throw back bread on them. In other words, we respond with love, no matter how hard it is. It's a challenge. I simply and genuinely believe that love is powerful than hate and in the end, it will help us, regardless of what path a person follows, to overcome those hatred and bitterness.
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How did you possibly get back from 1-4, that was unbelievable. The last goal was quite simply amazing. Happy 125th. Sorry mods, football talk please forgive me and leave it here for darkendless. PS I think god was on your side.........hahahaha..:biglaugh:
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I can't remember the last time someone knocked on my door proselytizing, and I live smack dab in the middle of the bible belt. Honestly, it has to be at least 20 years ago, maybe even more. And they were Jehovah's Witnesses. JW's are, in fact, the only group who have ever knocked on my door trying to recruit people.
I also can't remember the last time someone was disrespectful of my faith, in real life (though I see tons of disrespect toward my faith online -especially on this forum).
In real life, I have yet to see a Christian be disrespectful to an atheist for that matter. I know several atheists, who are known to be atheists, and I've never witnessed anyone being rude to them.
I know a pretty large number of Muslims. When 9/11 happened, our community rallied around them in a very protective mode. I never witnessed anyone being rude to them either.
I'm not saying it doesn't happen, because of course it does. I'm just saying that it's not common around here (small town in east Texas) to be rude to people based on their religious beliefs.
The only proselytizer to actually come to my door in recent memory was a Catholic - she had apparently taken it upon herself to do it and seemed rather confused.
It's been much more common for me to be approached when I'm out in public... I've been approached by Mormons and someone who didn't get far enough with me for me to find out his denomination... and when I was in university, JWs would camp out on the path to campus (just off university property so they wouldn't be trespassing) handing out magazines and approaching people several days a month for the whole time I was an undergrad.
I've also encountered other "non-face-to-face" proselytizing, such as religious tracts left in public places for people to find and pick up.
i just want christians/christianity to stay out of schools sciecnce and polotics please
For me, it isn't that I think that all Christians are the same, but I do think that a person's actions speak: for instance, I know plenty of Catholics who say they they're in favour of contraception, same-sex marriage, abortion in cases like rape, and generally put forward the idea that what the Pope or the Catechism say doesn't reflect on them... but then they go to Mass every week, recite the Apostle's Creed, put their money in the collection plate, and stand up to be counted as a member of the flock. I don't think it's unreasonable to infer that the stated positions of the Church do have something to do with them, since they're explicitly supporting them.
I don't think it's enough to only recognize that there are good Christians... of course there are. However, there are good people in every group. We could probably find a few good people in biker gangs; does this mean that biker gangs are a force for good?
I think the more important question is the influence of Christianity: yes, there are good people in it, but would those good people (or the bad people) be better or worse without Christianity? Speaking hypothetically, even if Christians were all good people, if it was the case that they'd be exemplary people without Christianity, this would tell me that Christianity wasn't a good thing, despite all Christians being good.
Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
I don't like Christianity, because it is less than ideal morally and less than accurate scientifically.
I don't like some Christians because they don't see this, and attempt to take it all as absolute truth or the highest morality.
...the rest I just feel a bit sorry for.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Don't waste any pity on me. My Christian faith has greatly enriched not only my own life, but the lives of my family members, including my seven grandchildren.
My family loves our faith which we live and practice. Considering our involvement in our local community and in faith based charities (such as orphanages), I'd say that other people benefit from our Christianity as well.
I'm sure you can and perhaps do practice your own beliefs in ways that are good for your community as well and that's great, but please don't belittle the faith of others which encourages them to better their own communities and lives.
waitasec
Veteran Member
i dislike the christian faith because it justifies bad behavior done by perfectly nice people ...
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I could say the same about atheism, or any other number of ideas, movements, etc.
It's human nature to justify our bad behavior. Don't blame that on any one particular belief system.
waitasec
Veteran Member
well then start a new thread...
isn't this about christians?
and as i've stated before...
it's an excuse like any other...
what's the big deal, why defend it?
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Atheism isn't a system of beliefs. Nor does it inform what you should or shoudn't do. People take actions on what they believe, not what they don't believe. When was the last time you heard about bad behavious being the result of a lck of belief in leprechauns, or a lack of belief in anything. The bad behaviour you're referring to is the result of actions taken by people who have an active belief.
dyanaprajna2011
Dharmapala
Ok, I'm going to try to answer this as honestly and openly as I can. I don't agree with Christianity, I don't not like it. It has many good qualities, and there are aspects that I think are pretty decent, spiritually. However, I find some aspects of Christianity unlikable. There are things in the Bible that are not really fit for spirituality. But, this all depends on how literally you view the text, which brings me to my next point: Christians. I am fully aware that there are Christians who are not blind faith types, bigots, literalists, and fundamentists. I do realize that there are many Christians who understand that their faith is to be primarily one of compassion and acceptance and forgiveness. I understand that there are Christians who don't accept that all of the Bible is to be understood literally, and that anything in the Bible that disagrees with the findings of science are better understood in a metaphorical or allegorical sense. So, my problems with Christians and Christianity are simply those who use blind faith as an excuse to take every part of the Bible in a literal sense, and who are hate-filled, ignorant, bigoted, uncaring people. With that being said, it's hard for me to not generalize all Christians in this manner, as fundamentalists, for two reasons: 1. those are the kind I have to deal with personally on a daily basis, and 2. those are the one's who are the loudest, and who stop progress in the US. I would hope that the vast majority of Christians, who are not fundamentalists, who actually believe Jesus' teachings on love, compassion, kindness, understanding, acceptance, and forgiveness, would be more vocal against those who obviously do not understand Jesus' message at all. Fundamentalists are attempting to ruin this country, and they take it personally, by acting the same way towards individuals who do not agree with them, like me. So, I suppose my point is that, I know that not all Christians are fundamentalists, and that there are many, not just some, who disagree with the fundamentalists' stance. But it's hard for me to see those, when most of what I see and have to deal with are those fundamentalist types. So, I don't generalize, but sometimes I do get upset with Christianity as a whole, because of what I have to put up with. It's not right for me to do so, and I'm not making excuses. That's something that I have to work on. But, I do wish that those Christians who are not fundamentalists would speak up just a bit louder against such foolishness.
JacobEzra.
Dr. Greenthumb
I don't even get how one can hate anothers "faith". Seems silly to hate something which is a personal decision by one.
