Does God love women less than men?/Does God love men more than women?

Pegg said:

Ah, yes you did....you said:
"the reality is that misogyny is inherent in abrahamic faiths"

By stating the chinese ( a non abrahamic influenced nation ) Im pointing out that the flaw of male domination is found in all cultures in all races of people at all times....its a 'male specific' problem...not a religious one.

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that isn't saying it is exclusive...it's saying it was a big part of the abrahamic faith...you can't deny that.

inherent: a characteristic
exclusive: restricted or limited to the group

so really your saying the same thing as Father Heathen...

The bible simply explains why its a problem.

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a problem that is being solved....
through no help from the apostle paul... :no:

How science will solve misogyny

Ian Malcolm: God creates dinosaurs. God destroys dinosaurs. God creates man. Man destroys God. Man creates dinosaurs.
Ellie Sattler: Dinosaurs eat man … woman inherits the earth.
-Jurassic Park (the movie, not the much more interesting book)

Pegg said:

Ah, yes you did....you said:
"the reality is that misogyny is inherent in abrahamic faiths"

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Yes, I did (and it is inherent in abrahanic faiths), but how does that sentence imply that it's exclusive or original to abramaic faiths?

Storm said:

Inherent =/= exclusive.

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waitasec said:

that isn't saying it is exclusive...it's saying it was a big part of the abrahamic faith...you can't deny that.

inherent: a characteristic
exclusive: restricted or limited to the group

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What they said.

Father Heathen said:

That doesn't answer anything; so why was man given dominance over woman and not the other way around?

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Exactly my thoughts.

Father Heathen said:

Of course, the reality is that misogyny is inherent in abrahamic faiths, and it speaks more of the cultures from which the faiths originated than it does of any actual gods.

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In non- abrahemitic faiths too.
Just think of widow burning in Hinduism: Husband dead? Woman no longer useful - burn her.

godlikemadman said:

Why would God make Adam stronger and Eve weaker if he knew they would get kicked out of heaven? As a God, couldn't he foresee the potential problems of one type having physical dominance over the other?

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:yes:

Madhuri said:

She means that male domination is inherent in most cultures.

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But this can only be so because men are physical stronger than women.
Would it be other way round, women would rule over men.

Trey of Diamonds said:

Take a look at lions. The male is physically stronger but he's also lazy. The lioness does most of the work and keeps the pride together. The male sleeps all day and plays with the kids.

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But the male eats first, the females have to wait until he's finished.
Because in spite of lionesses doing the hunting, lions are physical stronger.

Wasn´t the OT rules for women far stronger than those for men anyways?

So OT´s "God" is still machista.

Marble said:

But the male eats first, the females have to wait until he's finished.
Because in spite of lionesses doing the hunting, lions are physical stronger.

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Sure, but most likely not the smartest. Out physical qualities are designed for survival as an animal but survival as a human requires brain power too. Male and Female are equal in this respect, if you are consider the male intellegence with generosity.

Father Heathen said:

Yes, I did (and it is inherent in abrahanic faiths), but how does that sentence imply that it's exclusive or original to abramaic faiths?

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yes thankyou, i see where i mistook what you said. Ok so inherent doesnt mean exclusive.

I think we do agree on the fact that male dominance in exclusive to men

Marble said:

So why does God allow this?
Why did God give men superior physical powers?

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Because he gave women superior manipulative powers. It all shakes out in the end.

Marble said:

All over the world we see that men have rulership over women.
A small number - in comparision to world population - of women in Europe and the USA have managed to achieve a relative state of "equality", but victims of men they are nevertheless (rape).
So why does God allow this?
Why did God give men superior physical powers?

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Women generally want to raise children. They don't look to an expanse and wonder, what's on the other side? Some do, but historically not nearly as much as men. To women, the children usually come first.

As for why God allows this? Free will. He allows anything within the physical laws He set for this universe.

Not all men have superior physical powers over women.

As for the bible treating women as having some status below men, well, you have to remember that the books of the bible were written by men. Ancient man had little respect for women because they were generally weaker so when the men wrote temple policy books they included information on how women should behave. These books were not divinely inspired but they were included in the bible simply because they were old and described certain rituals which the new Christian faith wanted to adopt.

Marble said:

All over the world we see that men have rulership over women.
A small number - in comparision to world population - of women in Europe and the USA have managed to achieve a relative state of "equality", but victims of men they are nevertheless (rape).
So why does God allow this?
Why did God give men superior physical powers?

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Why do women and the cultures in which they exist allow this crap? Is that not the real question, here? God certainly didn't make women useless, weak minded, spiritless and incapable of fighting back.

I think the answer lies in PEOPLE. There are things that aren't justifiable, regardless of religion or culture and people continue to justify horrific behavior, fueling oppression.

I'd leave God out of the equation and question why the honorable men within these countries and the strong willed women who aren't fearful to make a difference aren't doing something about gender injustices.

Personally, I refuse to acknowledge that men are superior in anyway to women.

dawny0826 said:

Why do women and the cultures in which they exist allow this crap? Is that not the real question, here? God certainly didn't make women useless, weak minded, spiritless and incapable of fighting back.

I think the answer lies in PEOPLE. There are things that aren't justifiable, regardless of religion or culture and people continue to justify horrific behavior, fueling oppression.

I'd leave God out of the equation and question why the honorable men within these countries and the strong willed women who aren't fearful to make a difference aren't doing something about gender injustices.

Personally, I refuse to acknowledge that men are superior in anyway to women.

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The two major religions of the world, approx. half the population, justify the atrocities attributed to their gods. What hope have women got.