What Defines Church Law?

Do 100% of catholics need to agree with canon law to make it law? just woundering.

Can you imagine how strenuous that would be if 100% had to agree. There are over 100 million catholics. Nothing would ever get done. Thank God for the Magesterium!!!!

good point , but is there any number that have to agree with the law or can the pope make it into law without anyone agreeing?

If you are a catholic and believe what catholics do, then you also are obliged to follow all the little rules. Catholics try to justify themselves by works, not faith. They have forgotten the words of Romans and the Gospels. To be frank, I don't believe Catholics to be Christian any more than I believe that Mormonism or Jehovah's Witnesses are Christian. They deny the basics that Christianity was founded on.

So my answer is, to BE a catholic, you need to follow the rules set by the church, i.e. the rituals and all.

The Ocelot

I've never even really thought about it. Is "Church Law" the set of principles that the people of a Church abide by, or is it more than that? I know in some religion the set of principles is defined by a group of people at a council or something... but as for Catholics, I really don't know...

By Church law I guess youa re talking about the laws passed by all the cardinals in congruence with the pope. The pope has to have a majority vote from all the cardinals for a law to be passed.

And Ocelot, that is of course your opinion, for many believe catholics to be the only christians. They were the first, why would they not follow the basics in which christianity was founded on? They are the ones who founded it.

The Catholics, In my opinion, are geared more towards earning their salvation. They were at first all for Jesus, but I believe the heirarchy became corrupt with power, much like the pharisees. Indulgences, Confession boxes, idols (Mary was an obedient woman, but has in herself no deity), and Purgatory came into the picture over the years. The reformation helped to bring the doctrines of the Bible back into the picture.

The Ocelot

The Ocelot,

This could turn into a very heated argument. First of all Catholics do not put all their stress on their works. We believe it is by grace that we earn salvation, but we also must try to uphold the commandments of the Lord and try to imitate him. That is what we are called to do. especially to "Love other as I have loved you" Jesus died on the cross for the sins of all. He rose from the dead. It is by this that we are saved, but we are to accept it, and to accept it only in words and not put any emphasis in deed is to be more of a Pharisee, don't you agree?
The church becoming corrupt is another issue. The church is infallible. In her teachings and her practices, she cannot make a mistake.
"Peter you are the rock upon which I will build my church, and the gates of hell will never prevail against it."
Jesus would not leave us with a church that could lead us into sin or error. Now, the pope and bishops and priests can and do sin. I'm not saying that, they are human just as we are, but when doctrine or dogma is declared, it is true.
"Whatever you hold bound on earth is held bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth is loosed in heaven."
I'm sorry I don't have a Bible on me to quote where the scriptures are, but I'll post it later.
and think of this. If the Catholic church is wrong, so is the protestant. My church has been around for 1971 years. The protestant church is only about five hundred years old. Do you think a lawyer, a rebel monk, and a tyranical king could set the church on the narrow path again?
The catholic church is the church that Jesus Christ himself set up and has the full revelation of truth taught by him. God bless.

The Ocelot said:

They deny the basics that Christianity was founded on.

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I just created one. It is, quite simply, titled "Catholics and Christians". I didn't feel creative...

Go on over and battle it out!

Church law?

Would you Adam and Eve it?