Wow, left for the weekend and this post has sure grown... So here are some things I would like to comment on...
MdmSzdWhtGuy said:
I am not here saying that each and every Muslim in the world is a terrorist. However, I will say, and your poll supports the position that a disturbingly high number of them agree with terrorist's goals and tactics.
The point is not that many of them agree with the terrorists (which actually that statement is misleading seeing as it is mostly less than half that agree with the terrorists) but the point is that their numbers are going down, meaning we are getting through to them
MdmSzdWhtGuy said:
I am hateful and bigoted (to use your terms) toward people who murder innocents in the name of their religion. I do not apologize for that. I also don't have fond feelings for those who support, or agree with those who murder and maim in the name of their religion. In my opinion, those who fall under the category of Islamic or Terrorist Apologists deserve no acclaim.
But yet you seem to think that anyone who is trying to stand up for the peaceful people of Islam is a Terrorist Apologist... which goes against your eariler statement of...
I am not here saying that each and every Muslim in the world is a terrorist.
You cannot have it both ways... If you use the words "Islam" and "Terrorist" interchangibly then you are stating that an Islam is a terrorist.
Faith is an Assurance said:
We still want answers to Islam before it is too late for the rest of us. We are only concerned about our lives and cannot sit back while Islam seems to be increasing at a faster rate than Christianity. If the peaceful Islamic people are increasing then the Islam extremists are increasing as well.
Please either back up this statement with numbers or retract it. It is a huge fallicy here (I forget the fallacys name, but it has to do with saying that because something is happening in the large group, it must be happening to everything associated with that large group.)
Faith is an Assurance said:
We all have a legitimate concern AND THAT DOES NOT MAKE US BIGOTS AND HATEFUL OF OTHER PEOPLES RELIGIONS.
No, you have an ignorant concern.
Faith is an Assurance said:
Even the military is having trouble discerning who is a terrorist and who is not.
This has to do with your neighbor how?
EEWRED said:
We do not hear an outcry from any sect of the muslim community condemning the actions of jihadist's.
Sigh... I have posted the "outcrys" numerous times... Can you not read? Or is it selective reading that you do?
EEWRED said:
I have come to the conclusion that the vast majority of those who practice Islam either agree with the terrorist acts, support the terrorist acts, committ the terrorist acts or find some sort of logic to try to understand and sympathise with the terrorist acts.
Apparently your conclusion is wrong... Even the "worst" polls put the Islam supporters total in the under 50% category (which is less than the majority) So apparently a "vast majority" is very untrue... Or do you have some polls that have not been posted yet?
Faith is an Assurance said:
Muslims burned 100 cars and several businesses in Paris, a few days ago, in protest over the death of two young muslim boys. After being chased by police, these two boys were accidently electricuted by an electric fence and died. Is this the fault of the police ???? Is this the fault of the community as a whole ????? NO yet some Muslims, in Paris, seem to blame the people of Paris for an accidental death. And if I remeber right Paris is not even involved in the Iraqi war.
Your point? How many riots break out because of sports teams winning, wars, and power outages (yes, this happens... in a power outage the security alarms of stores are not on so riots tend to break out in poor neighborhoods) I would say a riot breaking out over two kids deaths would be a better reason than the ones listed above... Yet where is your outcry for these?
Faith is an Assurance said:
Was the burning of 100 cars and several business done in the name of Allah ???? This is not the God that I serve. My God would never ask me to do these kinds of things, or anything like it, in protest to anything. Burning things is a primal behavior,
Your god asked for the crusades, right?
EEWRED said:
The difference is that most christians comeout agaisnt these acts and believe them to be bad things.
As do most people of Islam... But apparently from an earlier post of yours you believe that NO Islam sect has come out against the terrorism... So apparently you are not well read on this matter...
EEWRED said:
Why are not the Islams coming out in the same way we would about what others are doing "in the name of allah" and yet they get a pass from everyone who is not a muslim.
Lets see... why wouldn't people of Islam in other countries come out against the acts of the terrorists? Well first off... When you say that people come out against the things done in the name of Christianity, what do you really mean? So are you saying that MOST people in Ireland during the high time of the IRA would have said that they were completely against the IRA? If not, then how could you expect MOST people of Islam to go against the terrorists when there are so many terrorists? Just going out against them could be signing their own death warrent... So why would anyone go to a TV station and say "Hey, I'm against terrorists... oh, and please dont kill me and my family." To me the safest thing to do in the middle east is to not get involved and not get on either side. The main proponents of Islam have cone out against terrorism, and many were brave enough to come out against Islam in these countries as well... Also, in America, where the Islam people have nothing to fear, most of them are agaisnt Terrorism.
EEWRED said:
If a christian does something bad, then it is, "what do you expect, his religion has been screwing people for two thousand years." If a muslim terrorist blows someone up, it is, "well he was a terrorist, but don't blame Islam because it is a religion of peace." It confounds me how this can be the case, but it is and you see it everytime a terrorist, in the name of allah, does something to hurt others.
So are you saying that his religion did this to him? So are you saying that he read the Koran and it told him exactly how to go about getting bombs and then told him where and when to blow himself up? On the same token I do not believe that christianity should be blamed for anything that a christian has done... But make no mistake about it, if you go about blaming Islam for the terrorists, I will go about blaming Christianity for all the bad things Christians have done... Instead of spreading more lies (because it is pretty obvious you think what was said about christianity was a lie) why dont you tell people that it is the man, and not the religion that kills people? To me that is the only "christian" thing to do. :162:
EEWRED said:
And finally, an ever increasing number of muslims believe that those who fight to end terrorism, are wrong, bad evil, etc. In other words, the war against terrorism or the US.
Don't most americans think the war on terrorism is stupid and we should end it? =P
When their family members are over in another country where a war is going on... Well lets say all of your family was over in Iraq right now, and you hear on the news every time a civilain dies (which is actually quite often.) Would you not also want the war to stop?
I only hope people can start realizing that "most" of Islam is not supporting the terrorists. The numbers do not support this idea... Unless if you try to redefine "most" to suit your needs.
