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New Poll: Majority of Americans Support Wall Street Protestors!

Nisou Kitsune

Resident Anime Freak
http://www.nationofchange.org/fox-c...ge-majority-americans-support-them-1318714964
Do you think the Protests will continue to gain support among Americans? Why or why not?

Yes, and this is why:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGRXCgMdz9A&feature=player_embedded

and this:

NYC Citibank Arrest Customers For Closing Their Accounts - Digg

And because people are losing their homes, their jobs, their educations, their futures and their children's futures. There are a hundred thousand things why this will continue, and I can see this blowing up soon if the cops don't stop the violence and unjust arrests. I support these people, and look forward to the change that is coming.
 

Rakhel

Well-Known Member
No one was arrested for closing their bank accounts. That is a nonsensical attempt to gain attention for a movement that has no cause.
Scare tactics are about as low as one can get.



ADD: OMG I just watched the video. OccupyWallSt tried to occupy a bank?! OF all the stupid...
 
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Rakhel

Well-Known Member
staging a sit-in in a bank. Seriously?
Occupy Wall Street: Citibank Arrests | Long Island Press
Occupy Wall Street: Citibank Arrests

By Andrea Devaro on October 16th, 2011


A protester is arrested for allegedly trespassing on Citibank property Saturday

More than 90 people have been arrested so far during this weekend’s Occupy Wall Street “Global Day of Protest” in New York City, and two dozen of those arrested were at the La Guardia Place Citibank branch Saturday.
While reports that the bank was arresting customers trying to close their accounts went viral, authorities maintained that the protesters were detained for trespassing and other violations, including wearing masks and resisting arrest.

The demonstrators staged a sit-in at the West Village bank Saturday, stating that they wanted to close their Citibank accounts. They were handcuffed and removed by police shortly after. On Saturday evening Citibank Public Affairs issued a statement regarding the incident: “A large amount of protesters entered our branch at 555 La Guardia Place around 2:00 PM today. They were very disruptive and refused to leave after being repeatedly asked, causing our staff to call 911. The Police asked the branch staff to close the branch until the protesters could be removed. Only one person asked to close an account and was accommodated.”
“To be clear: no one was arrested for closing an account; we didn’t lock people in our branch – the police decided to close the branch; and we didn’t ask for anyone to be arrested - that is a police decision.”
There was also a brief standoff at a nearby Chase Bank, but no arrests were made.
The rest of the New York City arrests took place in Times Square and Washington Square Park. Demonstrators were ordered to leave the park at midnight, and those who refused were taken into police custody.
Demonstrations also took place around the world, including Orlando Florida, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and internationally in Rome, Italy and Australia and Asia.
It wasn't even important enough to make the major media outlets.
 

Mathematician

Reason, and reason again
staging a sit-in in a bank. Seriously?

It wasn't even important enough to make the major media outlets.

What's wrong with sit-ins at corrupt establishments?

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Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Just because you are a bank customer, it doesn't mean you can go into a bank and raise hell.

I'm just sayin'.
 

FlyingTeaPot

Irrational Rationalist. Educated Fool.
staging a sit-in in a bank. Seriously?

It wasn't even important enough to make the major media outlets.
No, thats not the case at all. The "important", or more accurately, the mainstream media outlets are purposefully ignoring or downplaying OWS.
 

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
Nope.

There is nothing to indicate that they were going to close their accounts other than the claim from the protesters.
The video shows them milling around the lobby, not standing in line waiting to close their accounts.

In fact, it looks to me as though they were specifically waiting for the police to show up.

Looks like the whole thing is nothing more than a publicity stunt.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Not only that, but at least five of them were wearing masks.

Wearing masks is prohibited in a bank. Think about it.

Closing an account is one thing (and like Mestemia said, it didn't look like anyone in the videos was doing anything more than milling about in the lobby - not standing in an orderly line or sitting at a desk with a banker). Raising hell, being loud and disruptive, or wearing anything that conceals your identity while claiming to want to close your account is another. Option Number Two will generally get you escorted from the bank, or arrested, whether you are an OWS protestor or not.

And finally, people keep claiming that the MSM is ignoring the OWS protests and arrests. I find this pretty hilarious. I see it all over the MSM news just about every day.

Global Day of Rage mostly peaceful, Rome clears | Reuters

Anti-Wall St. movement grows to dozens of cities - US news - Life - msnbc.com

Solidarity Saturday: Occupy Wall Street Goes Global - TIME NewsFeed

Police back down from "Occupy London" site - CBS News

80-plus arrested in NYC Occupy Wall Street protest - CBS News

The Associated Press: Occupy Wall Street reaches 1-month birthday

Occupy Wall Street, now international, marks 1-month birthday with $300K in bank - The Washington Post

I could go on and on for pages. The assertion that the MSM is ignoring or downplaying the OWS (and linked protests around the globe) is getting pretty ridiculous at this point.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
I could go on and on for pages. The assertion that the MSM is ignoring or downplaying the OWS (and linked protests around the globe) is getting pretty ridiculous at this point.
Not only that but now they have the long awaited and much coveted support from the American Nazi Party and from the leaders of Communist China. Who could have predicted that, eh.

This just in from the Wall Street Journal.
Douglas Schoen: Polling the Occupy Wall Street Crowd

Oddly, the "protesters" have a decidedly far left bias.

Who knew?
 
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Rakhel

Well-Known Member
4. Being masked or in any manner disguised by unusual or unnatural
attire or facial alteration, loiters, remains or congregates in a public
place with other persons so masked or disguised, or knowingly permits or
aids persons so masked or disguised to congregate in a public place;
except that such conduct is not unlawful when it occurs in connection
with a masquerade party or like entertainment if, when such
entertainment is held in a city which has promulgated regulations in
connection with such affairs, permission is first obtained from the
police or other appropriate authorities; or

New York Penal - Article 240 - § 240.35 Loitering - New York Attorney Resources - New York Laws
 

Alceste

Vagabond
Not only that but now they have the long awaited and much coveted support from the American Nazi Party and from the leaders of Communist China. Who could have predicted that, eh.

This just in from the Wall Street Journal.
Douglas Schoen: Polling the Occupy Wall Street Crowd

Oddly, the "protesters" have a decidedly far left bias.

Who knew?

Which specific policies is he calling "far left" I wonder? Access to education? Progressive taxation? Health care? Social Security for pensioners? That doesn't sound all that extreme to me. Why shouldn't Americans have the benefit of mainstream-friendly public policies enjoyed by every other first world country? Too "radical"? I think not.

This pollster is either a complete moron or employed to intentionally misinform people.
 

CaptainXeroid

Following Christ
The pollsters did not ask me, but I can't support these protesters until they can clearly state exactly what their goals are and what they want changed. I understand why they are upset, but I think their protests are misplaced.

As a free market capitalist, I'm mad at government for interfering through the ill-conceived bailouts. Sure, there would have been some short term pain in the economy, but supporting 'too big to fail' has done a great deal of damage to our economic system.

The cheesy statement "Don't hate the player, hate the game." applies here. If these protesters really understood the problem, they would be storming Washington, not Wall Street.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
This pollster is either a complete moron or employed to intentionally misinform people.
Given your left bias, Alceste, it doesn't strike me as being remarkable that you would think that. I rather doubt that Bill Clinton thought Schoen was a moron otherwise it is unlikely he would have used the fellow to conduct polls for Clinton's edification. I guess that's where the "employed to intentionally misinform people" comes in to cover your butt.
 

Alceste

Vagabond
Given your left bias, Alceste, it doesn't strike me as being remarkable that you would think that. I rather doubt that Bill Clinton thought Schoen was a moron otherwise it is unlikely he would have used the fellow to conduct polls for Clinton's edification. I guess that's where the "employed to intentionally misinform people" comes in to cover your butt.

I notice you failed to answer my question. Which of the policies the article found support for among the protesters do you think qualifies as "radical left"? Public funding for education, health care and old age security or progressive taxation (aka tax hikes for the rich)?
 

Alceste

Vagabond
The pollsters did not ask me, but I can't support these protesters until they can clearly state exactly what their goals are and what they want changed. I understand why they are upset, but I think their protests are misplaced.

As a free market capitalist, I'm mad at government for interfering through the ill-conceived bailouts. Sure, there would have been some short term pain in the economy, but supporting 'too big to fail' has done a great deal of damage to our economic system.

The cheesy statement "Don't hate the player, hate the game." applies here. If these protesters really understood the problem, they would be storming Washington, not Wall Street.

What they are protesting is that Wall Street IS Washington. They feel the US gov't no longer serves the public interest, only the interest of the wealthiest 1%.
 
Which specific policies is he calling "far left" I wonder? Access to education? Progressive taxation? Health care? Social Security for pensioners? That doesn't sound all that extreme to me. Why shouldn't Americans have the benefit of mainstream-friendly public policies enjoyed by every other first world country? Too "radical"? I think not.

This pollster is either a complete moron or employed to intentionally misinform people.

Access to education: I want my college bills paid for by everybody else. Excuse my debt because my college education is a right. Oh yeah. And I want top pay in the highest level of the field I studied in without having to work my way up.
I'm not even going to get into illegal aliens in the system.

Progressive taxation: Redistribution of wealth. Nuff said.

Health care: Obamacare.

Social security for pensioners: Good idea, poorly managed, needs work.
One out of these four aint bad, but not good either.
 

Alceste

Vagabond
Access to education: I want my college bills paid for by everybody else. Excuse my debt because my college education is a right. Oh yeah. And I want top pay in the highest level of the field I studied in without having to work my way up.
I'm not even going to get into illegal aliens in the system.

Progressive taxation: Redistribution of wealth. Nuff said.

Health care: Obamacare.

Social security for pensioners: Good idea, poorly managed, needs work.
One out of these four aint bad, but not good either.

Actually, a flat tax would be a radical redistrobution of wealth - upwards. That's why all first world countries already have progressive tax. Try again - not very radical. All developed nations outside the UD have universal health care too, and many have publicly funded post-secondary education. Remember, the article claims these are "radical" leftist ideas. That's false.
 
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