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homosexual and the new testament
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Green Gaia
Veteran Member
I can give you the verses that some try to use against homosexuals, I will leave their interpretation up to you.
Romans 1:26-27: "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence [sic] of their error which was meet."
1Corithians 6:9-10: "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
1 Timothy 1:9-10: "Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine."
One should note that all of these were Paul's words. There is no record of Jesus saying anything on the matter of homosexuality.
Romans 1:26-27: "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence [sic] of their error which was meet."
1Corithians 6:9-10: "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
1 Timothy 1:9-10: "Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine."
One should note that all of these were Paul's words. There is no record of Jesus saying anything on the matter of homosexuality.
Prophet Rashad
Member
I could not agree morecturne said:
-The Prophet
They are inspired by God because, of course, 2 Timothy - presumed by the faithful to be authored by Paul - says so, i.e.: Paul is inspired by God because Paul says that Paul is inspired by God. Ya gotta love it!cturne said:
Mike182
Flaming Queer
i would offer that the 1corinthians verse is misstranslated - it originally said "male prostitutes" 
we know not if jesus preached on homosexuality or not, he had 30 years of ministry, i can assure you that not all of it is recorded
duet does indeed have a good point: i am not sure what i think about pauls words being written as Gods words, i will have to think about it, but i would have to say that paul followed jesus and listened to his ministry, im sur ehe was only writting what he thought was best
C_P
we know not if jesus preached on homosexuality or not, he had 30 years of ministry, i can assure you that not all of it is recorded
duet does indeed have a good point: i am not sure what i think about pauls words being written as Gods words, i will have to think about it, but i would have to say that paul followed jesus and listened to his ministry, im sur ehe was only writting what he thought was best
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James the Persian
Dreptcredincios Crestin
I'd have said that the silence in the Scriptures as to whether or not Christ spoke of homosexuality is (whilst being admittedly unconclusive either way) more likely to show disapproval than approval of homosexuality. The OT is quite clear in its condemnation of homosexuality and Christ was a Jew and debated with other Jews on their interpretation of the law. It seems to me that if He had done anything as radical (from a Jewish perspective) as condemning them for their attitude towards homosexual sex it would have been noted. I just don't find the argument for toleration of homosexual acts from Christ's apparent silence terribly convincing given the culture in which He lived.Sunstone said:
James
James the Persian
Dreptcredincios Crestin
But given the sorts of things He did say that earnt Him the disapproval of His peers and inspired conspiracies against Him, not to mention His eventual crucifixion, this hardly strikes me as a good argument either. I still find the argument from silence completely unconvincing.JerryL said:
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blueman
God's Warrior
I think it's important to look at what the Bible says about homosexuality and not just isolate it to the New Testament. In the book of Leviticus, God called homosexuality an abomination. God is the same God yesterday, today and forevermore and I doubt if He has "modernized" His view on this subject.
If my Orthopaedic surgeon says "I don't do backs", I can say "I don't do the Old testament"..blueman said:I think it's important to look at what the Bible says about homosexuality and not just isolate it to the New Testament. In the book of Leviticus, God called homosexuality an abomination. God is the same God yesterday, today and forevermore and I doubt if He has "modernized" His view on this subject.
Green Gaia
Veteran Member
So God still supports genocide, murder, infanticide, slavery....? The God of the Old Testament certainly did ....blueman said:I think it's important to look at what the Bible says about homosexuality and not just isolate it to the New Testament. In the book of Leviticus, God called homosexuality an abomination. God is the same God yesterday, today and forevermore and I doubt if He has "modernized" His view on this subject.
So forgive me if I'm not apt to trust what the God of the Old Testament thinks about much of anything....