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10,500b.c. what is so important about this date?

almifkhar

Active Member
archelogist, modern peoples and many of our modern religions have dismissed ancient religion and the reasons why they believed and practiced what they did. me, i feel that there is more to it than meets the eye. here is one perhaps you could share in some ideas as to what means.

what is so important about the year 10,500b.c.? there are sites such as the pyramids of giza, ankor watt, nasca lines that align perfectly to specific constellations in the night sky but only to this one date in time, yet these sites are said to be built long after this year and are many miles, ages, and cultures apart from one another.

what do you think the ancients were trying to tell us? what do you think the purpose of this is and why is the date 10.500b.c. so important?
 

Nehustan

Well-Known Member
I have just reached down some Archaelogical books, as I wanted to check if I was right in what I was going to write. In my most recent book (Jobling et Al., 2004, Human Evolutionary Genetics) on the study of palaeoanthropology, archaeology, 10,000 BP (Before Present dated from 1950) is cited as when 'The Holocene begins..Neolithic transition...origins of agriculture...demographic expansion' So quite a lot was underway at that time.
 

Solon

Active Member
There is no reason that 10,500 bce is significant. The so-called seer Edgar Cayce, through a series of trances, said that the survivors of Atlantis came into Egypt at this time. A number of new writers , prominent amongst them, Graham Hancock picked up on this, and began to propose a Lost Civilisation. However, there is no such thing, Archeaology is correct, Egygtian civilisation began around 3100bce. The new agers have speculated, made a fortune in book sales , attacked academia and proved absolutely nothing. I think they are chancers, cashing in on public credulity.

Solon
 

tavthe

Abysmal Stargazer
This is roughly about the same time period as the end of the last ice age (if you don't count the ice spurt in the 13th-14th century). Before the Pharaohs: Egypt's Mysterious Prehistory speculates about civilization before 3100 bc, and calls upon expertise from a number of disciplines (engineering, geology, astronomy, folklore, archaeology, genetics, etc.)

I've never been a believer in the notion that there has only been 5000 yrs of history. Highly doubtful, esp. considering there is ample archaeological evidence of civilizations dating back to 10th millennia. And some further than that.

As to whether Atlantis truly existed, and sank at that time, it might help explain rising shift in water levels, but I'm content to look at archaeological evidence of other regions for the time being.
 

gnostic

The Lost One
The Ice Age was coming to an end in much of northern Europe and Asia, which also mean the end of the Paleolithic period, and the beginning of the Neolithic period, where people began farming, both through agriculture and animal husbandry, instead of relying solely on hunting and foraging. Farming means less nomadic lifestyle and this would require them building settlements, like villages.

Of course, it was supposedly the time of Atlantis' supposed destruction.
 

Herr Heinrich

Student of Mythology
The Ice Age was coming to an end in much of northern Europe and Asia, which also mean the end of the Paleolithic period, and the beginning of the Neolithic period, where people began farming, both through agriculture and animal husbandry, instead of relying solely on hunting and foraging. Farming means less nomadic lifestyle and this would require them building settlements, like villages.

Of course, it was supposedly the time of Atlantis' supposed destruction.

And also what the Ecopsychologists believe is the beginning of society-wide madness.
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
what is so important about the year 10,500b.c.? there are sites such as the pyramids of giza, ankor watt, nasca lines that align perfectly to specific constellations in the night sky but only to this one date in time, yet these sites are said to be built long after this year and are many miles, ages, and cultures apart from one another.

what do you think the ancients were trying to tell us? what do you think the purpose of this is and why is the date 10.500b.c. so important?

I dont know about the 10,500bc date, but there is one thing all these things have in common... false religion. All false religious practices delved into astrology - the reading of the stars - so its not surprising that their temples and monuments were designed after the constellations.

but as with all false religions, there is no truth to be found in them so the dates they propose are not to be taken seriously.
 

gnostic

The Lost One
Pegg said:
I dont know about the 10,500bc date, but there is one thing all these things have in common... false religion. All false religious practices delved into astrology - the reading of the stars - so its not surprising that their temples and monuments were designed after the constellations.

It is actually not astrology, Pegg.

almifkhar is referring to the Orion Constellation Theory or Orion Correlation Theory (OCT).

This almifkhar's 10,500 BC "theory" has little to do with religion. And I also wouldn't call it a "theory" too, as so much as hypothesis, popularize by 2 authors, Robert Bauval and Graham Hancock. Their works are at simply interpretations and speculations of the ALMOST "correlation" between ancient monuments and the astronomical alignment of part of the Orion Constellation.

This OTC is nothing more than pure pseudoscience. And neither Buaval nor Hancock is a scientist. So OCT is not a work of science. Scientists have already criticized and debunked OCT, because they are works of pseudoscience.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
I have to say that the year 10,500 BCE is insignificant.
 

MapMistress

Member
what is so important about the year 10,500b.c.? there are sites such as the pyramids of giza, ankor watt, nasca lines that align perfectly to specific constellations in the night sky but only to this one date in time, yet these sites are said to be built long after this year and are many miles, ages, and cultures apart from one another.

what do you think the ancients were trying to tell us? what do you think the purpose of this is and why is the date 10.500b.c. so important?

To the ancient 10,500 BCE has no importance. It's really a group of people who think that the pyramids were constructed in that year who keep pushing the date but their archeology is invalid. And then the movies made the date (which the movie 10,500 BCE is not valid historically).

The Edgar Cayce Foundation believed that the dates of the pyramids were wrong. Which most archeologists and Egyptologists also agree on. So the Edgar Cayce Foundation hired Southern Methodist University to do new carbon dating studies on the pyramids. The problem is the methods of what was dated that was used.

In some instances, where they took wood from different pyramids--those are accurate. Some pyramids have wooden beams that support the base of the pyramid (others don't). Some pyramids used wood chips and reeds in the base column structure with mud--carbon dates debatable. But the mistake of the Edgar Cayce Foundation was trying to carbon date mud bricks of the pyramids. (the organic material inside the mudbricks). When mud bricks are dug, the top of the digging field goes on the bottom of the pyramid (or the bottom bricks). As they dig deeper into the earth, the material goes on the top of the pyramid. So Egyptians would dig a mudbrick field and the depth of the mudbrick field might go back to 10,000 BCE in the ground. Those bricks would be at the top of the pyramid.

Cayce Foundation and New Age people came up with the ridiculous that the pyramids were built from the "top down". Since the bricks at the top of the pyramid were older than the ones on the bottom. So they claim the pyramids began at the "top" in 10,500 BCE and that the young bricks are at the bottom. Which is impossible. Not logical. All they are stating in carbon dating mudbricks is how deep into the earth the mudbricks had been dug out of. Which has nothing to do with the real carbon date of any pyramid anyway.

The Last Glacial Maximum was actually from 22,000-14,000 years ago (20,000-12,000 BCE). The Younger Dryas (a debatable date) is a short period during the melt when the Earth froze up a bit-- roughly 10,800-10,000 years ago (8800-8000 BCE).

If anything the Younger Dryas is an important time frame, because the first ships were built large enough to carry livestock. A group in the Aegean had such ships and colonized each Aegean island (that was never connected to the mainland) and they also brought livestock with them (pigs, goats, sheep). That was roughly 8500 BCE (or 10,500 years ago). But not the same date that Cayce-New Agers use.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
which the movie 10,500 BCE is not valid historically

.... like the Egyptians using mammoths to build the pyramids....
 
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