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James the Persian
Dreptcredincios Crestin
As am I. If you can clarify what you're after, though, I'll happily try to help.jonny said:
James
Ummmmmmm............ I do have trouble explaining myself, some if not most of the time, but I will try.
I have real questions as to the approx. time and day that the Yahshua, the Anointed, gave up the Ghost.
Please bear with me because my beliefs do differ from most here but alot agree with some as well so I am really trying to word my statements and questions as not to either offend or give any false impressions but given my own ignorance I feel I must proceed.
The question was intended to get a mix of understandings from all that choose to participate to more give myself a broad availability of answers to discern from. I love to dig deep. I guess some would call it "nit-pick" the Scriptures as much as possible to find the truth that seems to be hidden from some if not most of us. I really hope that last sentence doesnt offend....... It wasn't intended to. I get confused and feel that certain things are hidden from my eyes as well. I do feel that when the right time comes and Yahweh deems me fit then He will allow more to be put before my eyes and ear's. To this end I continue to search out all things and keep that which is good. Kinda like chewing the meat and spit out the bone's if you know what I mean. So I continue to ask questions on all questions that come before me in search of answers. I can only hope that their are those out there that can help in this endeavor. And what better way to spread understanding than to ask and answer such questions before a multitude?
I have real questions as to the approx. time and day that the Yahshua, the Anointed, gave up the Ghost.
Please bear with me because my beliefs do differ from most here but alot agree with some as well so I am really trying to word my statements and questions as not to either offend or give any false impressions but given my own ignorance I feel I must proceed.
The question was intended to get a mix of understandings from all that choose to participate to more give myself a broad availability of answers to discern from. I love to dig deep. I guess some would call it "nit-pick" the Scriptures as much as possible to find the truth that seems to be hidden from some if not most of us. I really hope that last sentence doesnt offend....... It wasn't intended to. I get confused and feel that certain things are hidden from my eyes as well. I do feel that when the right time comes and Yahweh deems me fit then He will allow more to be put before my eyes and ear's. To this end I continue to search out all things and keep that which is good. Kinda like chewing the meat and spit out the bone's if you know what I mean. So I continue to ask questions on all questions that come before me in search of answers. I can only hope that their are those out there that can help in this endeavor. And what better way to spread understanding than to ask and answer such questions before a multitude?
James the Persian
Dreptcredincios Crestin
I'm sorry, but I still don't understand what you're actually asking about. As soon as you clarify that I will attempt to help you.wmam said:
James
O.K. ..... Let me try it this way..........wmam said:
This being an open request to all...........
Using the Bible of your choice and translation........ Explain the time line from the preparation day of Passover through the first day of the week where this time line fell in accord with the death and resurection of Yahshua, the Annointed.
I guess it isn't really a question so much other than a request for the different takes on the same time line.
Pah
Uber all member
Parts of a day was considered a day. Death was on the first day, and the resurrection was on the third day, Sunday. Saturday, by the way, was spent in Hell aquainting those, who had no chance to hear, of the salvatory effects of Christs death. Most creeds still retain "He arose AGAIN on the third day" - some still say "He died, was buried and descended into Hell"Aqualung said:
Mar 14:1 After two days was the feast of the passover, and of unleavened bread: and the chief priests and the scribes sought how they might take him by craft, and put him to death.
Mar 14:2 But they said, Not on the feast day, lest there be an uproar of the people.
Should I read further or should I take that they didn't want to take Him on a feast day and so they didn't?
Mar 14:2 But they said, Not on the feast day, lest there be an uproar of the people.
Should I read further or should I take that they didn't want to take Him on a feast day and so they didn't?
But if that be so wouldn't then the Passover meal and the First Day of Unleavened Bread be on the same day?
I also have questions regarding the fact that I haven't found where any of the things that were commanded to be observed or done as to the Passover meal was in fact done by any at the Last Supper. I mean if you go and read back in the OT in Leviticus on how you are to do and keep this meal it doesn't sound like anything that was done at the Last Supper. Furthermore I can't understand that Yahshua being the sacrificial Lamb for all mans sin why He wouldn't have been slain at the same time as the other Sacrificial Lambs that would have been slain on the preparation of the Passover which by my understanding would have been up to 3 hours prior to sunset which would mark the next day which would have been the time at dark to preform the Passover meal. The Lamb as has been stated would have been prepared between the twilights as is written in some translations. This could have put the death on or about what we call 3:00 p.m. which would coinside with the 9th hour but would put you on the day before the feast and make the Last Supper only that ............ a Supper and not a part of the Passover meal. This would have also allowed the death to occur on the Preparation day before the Passover meal which is also the First Day of Unleavened bread which is a High Holy Day. A High Holy Sabbat. I wonder on all these things cause I wonder of what the Priest would have thought of all this happening on such a day as a High Holy Sabbat. This stirs me back to the preparation day. Does anyone follow my thinking on this? I guess I'm having trouble trying to explain my thoughts.
I also have questions regarding the fact that I haven't found where any of the things that were commanded to be observed or done as to the Passover meal was in fact done by any at the Last Supper. I mean if you go and read back in the OT in Leviticus on how you are to do and keep this meal it doesn't sound like anything that was done at the Last Supper. Furthermore I can't understand that Yahshua being the sacrificial Lamb for all mans sin why He wouldn't have been slain at the same time as the other Sacrificial Lambs that would have been slain on the preparation of the Passover which by my understanding would have been up to 3 hours prior to sunset which would mark the next day which would have been the time at dark to preform the Passover meal. The Lamb as has been stated would have been prepared between the twilights as is written in some translations. This could have put the death on or about what we call 3:00 p.m. which would coinside with the 9th hour but would put you on the day before the feast and make the Last Supper only that ............ a Supper and not a part of the Passover meal. This would have also allowed the death to occur on the Preparation day before the Passover meal which is also the First Day of Unleavened bread which is a High Holy Day. A High Holy Sabbat. I wonder on all these things cause I wonder of what the Priest would have thought of all this happening on such a day as a High Holy Sabbat. This stirs me back to the preparation day. Does anyone follow my thinking on this? I guess I'm having trouble trying to explain my thoughts.
Aqualung
Tasty
wmam said:But if that be so wouldn't then the Passover meal and the First Day of Unleavened Bread be on the same day?[/'quote]
I have no idea. I really have no idea what order the jewish holidays go in. Perhaps one of the Jews on this site could enlighten me?No, I understand you. I'm just not really knoledgeable of exactly what people were supposed to do on the passover, as I have never celebrated it before. Again, that's more of a question for a Jew.wmam said:. . . Does anyone follow my thinking on this? I guess I'm having trouble trying to explain my thoughts.
Why?Aqualung said:
Doesn't Yahweh say that this is suppose to be done by everyone and all there generations?
KJV - Exo 12:14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.
So should we all observe it?
Aqualung
Tasty
wmam said:
Because I don't know the exact step by step procedure for the passover. I don't know how long they had to have unleavend bread. I don't know how many days after the start they sacrificed things. I don't practice that holiday so it doesn't seem very important to know that minutieae
He said that to the isrealites, the jews. He didn't say that to the gentiles or the christians.wmam said:
No. Passover was a type of Jesus. Jesus came, so we don't need that type anymore.wmam said: