As far as I know no, but the Bible does say Hades numerous times which is our God of the Underworld.
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Hell is not a Pagan belief
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As far as I know no, but the Bible does say Hades numerous times which is our God of the Underworld.
outhouse
Atheistically
it uses tartarus once, and hades many times "but" hades is just the greek translation for sheol. they have the same meaning.
its not the same as the mythical hades
outhouse
Atheistically
No actually Gehenna had more of a influence on the hell fire and brimstone that people associate with hell.
tartarus is little known in the bible and didnt apply for mortal men.
hell evolved over 1200-1400 years, from when judaism started to after it branched off into christianity
you may want to google "hell wiki" and read up on how it evolved and get all the real details
outhouse
Atheistically
I know all of this
Tartarus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
and I know its only used in the bible once for 200 angles as ive stated
you may need to read this to understand how hell evolved into what it is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell
no one is saying there were not many different versions of a tormented afterlife floating around at that time. But tartarus doesnt have that big of a connection with the mythical hell.
its on you to prove your point, can you?
Isn't there a difference between the 'Bible hell' and the 'Non-Bible hell' ?
Were the people of ancient Babylon God's people or not?
Wasn't suffering after death taught in the pagan religious teachings by the Egyptians and Assyrians besides Babylon?
When ancient peoples migrated from Babylon they took with them their religious ideas and spread them world wide into a greater religious Babylon or Babylon the Great. That is why we see overlapping hell fire concepts taught in the world's religions.
Jesus was in the Bible hell. Acts 2vs27,31.
But Jesus was Not in burning flames.
Jesus taught the dead are in a deep sleep-like state at John 11vs11-14.
The 'biblical hell' is temporary according to Rev 20vs13,14.
Everyone in the biblical hell is 'delivered up' resurrected.
Then, emptied-out hell dies a symbolic second death.
Only those of Matt 12v32; Hebrews 6vs4-6; 10vs26,27 have no hope of life anywhere to heaven or on earth. Even Satan will be destroyed. Heb 2v14 B.
According to 2nd Thess 1v9 eternal punishment is everlasting destruction not suffering after death.
St Giordano Bruno
Well-Known Member
The early Christian church was split on their interpretation of Hell. Some believed it was a purification process before they enter heaven and even the most wicked given time would be eventually cleansed of their sins - even the so called Devil himself, albeit he would be the last. Others believe it was a place of eternal torment, and there was no prospect of any salvation and there was no in-between, but this did not rest easily with a forgiving God for many Christians. So they came up with some agreement by agreeing in a belief of the existence of both concepts and so they conjured up a concept of Purgatory.
Purgatory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Purgatory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I think how how priests described hell for me for 23 years proves it to me enough. Trust me over here and im sure in the West the Churches are rifle with polytheistic teachings. I understand you are aware of tartarus but i don't think you are aware of the historical and social events which lead to the ordinary people to convert. Shall we take a look on what the Jews thought of this?
outhouse
Atheistically
I agree
never could stomach the trinity, as a child it turned me away.
I understand the fear based tactics, I also understand greek mythology and how it impacted judaism and christianity.
if you have something specific, please share. I love learning about different points of view as long as its valid.
carry on
The Christian concept of hell is the biblical Bible hell concept that Jesus believed in. What Jesus believed in is well supported biblically.
It is the 'non-Christian' hell concept that teaches forever burning.
The Christian hell concept that Jesus taught is that the dead sleep.
John 11vs11-14. Sleep the deep sleep of unconscious death.
[Ecc 9v5; Psalm 6v5; 13v3; 115v17; 146v4; Daniel 12vs2,13]
So, in other words, it is just 'so-called' Christians 'in name only' that teach forever burning.
The Bible teaches that the biblical hell ends after all in the Bible's hell are 'delivered up' [resurrected], then and only then, when the biblical hell is emptied out does the vacant Bible's hell end up cast into: second death.
-Rev 20vs13,14
The biblical tartarus is a prison like, abased condition that the disobedient angels of Noah's day were cast into.
-1st Pt. 3 vs19,20; Gen. 6 vs1-4; 2nd Pt. 2v4; Eph 6 vs10-12; Jude 6
So, Tartartus is not the abyss of Rev. 20 vs1-3
The biblical Tartarus then is not a place as it is in Greek mythology.
Also, not a condition for humans but disobedient rebel angels.
Tartarus being a precursor prior to the start of Jesus millennial reign.
After the end of Jesus thousand-year reign over earth,
then comes their annihilation or destruction in 'second death'.
-Matt 25v41; Rev 20 vs1-3, 7-10,14; 21v8; Hebrews 2v14 B.
Orias
Left Hand Path
Well Hell and Hel are two different things.
Hel was in Pagan belief, Hel was the underworld or the place that those went who did not receive a warriors death (Valhall), but she was also a Goddess.
Of course though, people are stupid and like to say stupid stuff like that because they sound the same that they, but you can't really do anything about people being idiots.
NeedingGnosisNow
super-human
i thought jehovahs witnesses didnt believe in hell
crystalonyx
Well-Known Member
The supposed Jesus didn't write revelation, just exactly what is his concept of hell.
The Christian concept of hell evolved over time, and was meant to scare people into becoming believers.
Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
there are different versions of hell and according to the Egyptian, Hindu, Jain, Buddhist, and Zoroastrian versions of hell, they are not everlasting. But they do say that after a period of suffering, the souls of sinners move on to some other place or state...that is very similar to the 'pergatory' taught by many christian denominations.
But that many did teach in eternal suffering, the Sumerians and the Babylonians believed in an underworld that they called the Land of No Return. And in the the Sumerian 'Epic of Gilgamesh' poem and the Akkadian 'Descent of Ishtar to the Underworld' poem, these both contain an idea of an eternal suffering.
There are ancient Assyrian texts stating that the nether world was filled with terror" and was controlled by Nergal, the king of the underworld. Even in Hinduism, the French Encyclopædia Universalis (Universal Encyclopedia) states: There are innumerable descriptions of the 21 hells imagined by the Hindus. Sinners are devoured by wild beasts and by snakes, laboriously roasted, sawed into parts, tormented by thirst and hunger, boiled in oil, or ground to powder in iron or stone vessels.