My View On Masturbation

Kriya Yogi · Jul 15, 2011

Jesus4m3 said:
I strongly disagree with masturbation because you are killing life. Basically its murder in my eyes. Why? Because you just took away potential beings an opportunity to live. That is why i believe its wrong. And how can you sit there and masturbate without thinking of someone or a private part? To pleasure yourself that way to me is sin and that leads to other sinful acts. Thats why its a sin in my eyes. Its no different then abortion to me. Its just as equal. Idc who disagrees but my point is very valid to many.

According to my Guru the souls of individuals are not stuck in sperm. They enter when the sperm enters the embryo and develops a spine. So you're not killing a soul you're killing microorganisms or cells that might serve as a vessel for human growth and that is all. Millions of sperm are killed all the time without ejaculation.

I'm not condoning these actions but they aren't as bad as abortion my friend. Not at all.

Jesus4m3 · Jul 15, 2011

Kriya Yogi said:
According to my Guru the souls of individuals are not stuck in sperm. They enter when the sperm enters the embryo and develops a spine. So you're not killing a soul you're killing microorganisms or cells that might serve as a vessel for human growth and that is all. Millions of sperm are killed all the time without ejaculation.

I'm not condoning these actions but they aren't as bad as abortion my friend. Not at all.

Thats your guru belief but in reality that is still life. Thats still a living creature, from my understanding with a microscope you can see them moving correct? Just because they havent developed a full human spine or w.e you want to add doesnt mean your not killing life.

Jesus4m3 · Jul 15, 2011

Mestemia said:
So you must also think that every menstrual cycle is also a sin, right up there with abortion, correct?

And every time you have sex you are also sinning, right?
I mean unless EVERY ONE of the millions of spermazoas released fertilizes an egg....

God forbid you have a nocturnal emission.
Oh my goodness, you mass murderer!

I dare say that you best be glad abortion is not illegal.
Other wise you would be in some really deep ****....

Actually im not sinning since im married and on top of that i dont have sex unless im going to have another child. So technically not sinning. I dont have huge sex feelings like many. To me the desire of my physical body does not affect me.

Kriya Yogi · Jul 15, 2011

Jesus4m3 said:
Thats your guru belief but in reality that is still life. Thats still a living creature, from my understanding with a microscope you can see them moving correct? Just because they havent developed a full human spine or w.e you want to add doesnt mean your not killing life.

It's like killing cells or germs. I really don't see it being as bad as abortion. Don't you think that's a little extreme?

fantome profane · Jul 15, 2011

Jesus4m3 said:
Actually im not sinning since im married and on top of that i dont have sex unless im going to have another child. So technically not sinning. I dont have huge sex feelings like many. To me the desire of my physical body does not affect me.

By choosing not to have sex you are taking away potential beings an opportunity to live. Choosing not to have sex denies the possibility of your sperm to create a human life. The only difference between masturbation and choosing not to have sex is that you dont get the sexual release or the health benefits. (masturbation is good for your prostate)

imaginaryme · Jul 15, 2011

El111 said:
Throughout my whole life, I've heard that masturbation is a sin. I strongly disagree with this.

I am a teenager and my feelings cannot be ignored. Without masturbation, I wouldn't be able to focus in class, my judging abilities would be impaired and I'd be frustrated to no end.

I believe watching pornography is a sin as it both degrades men and women but masturbation just for the reason of relief isn't.

I know many of you will say to just ignore my sexual thoughts and think about other things. Well, I play guitar and I'm involved in sports. Along with that, I'm also an honor role student. I keep myself busy. The feelings still come and don't go away. I've even tried fasting. Nothing will calm down my raging hormones.

I want to only have sex with one woman in my life. My wife. Without masturbation, I would've surely taken one of the opportunities that has presented itself to me. As I said early on, my sexual feelings impair my judgement.

Also, I could care less what the Catholic Church has to say about it. I was raised Catholic and turned Non-denominational Christian. The Catholic Church sickens me. I really couldn't give a s*** what they have to say. I'd rather not get into that now though.

Masturbation to me is a way of relief. Can anyone here who has gone through puberty honestly say they haven't done something sexual just for pleasure or relief and not for pro-creation? I thought so.

God created us as sexual beings. I feel no shame.

Is not creative sexuality, in the image of the Creator? Why do we feel shame at all?

ReligionBro · Jul 15, 2011

Jesus4m3 said:
Actually im not sinning since im married and on top of that i dont have sex unless im going to have another child. So technically not sinning. I dont have huge sex feelings like many. To me the desire of my physical body does not affect me.

I don't mean to attack you here, but your sexual frustration must be out of control if you only have sex to reproduce. You're just fooling yourself by telling your mind that you only want sex for kids.

Humans crave sexual attention, and you're just lying to yourself if you don't want sex.

Have fun, man! Live life! You only get one.

averageJOE · Jul 15, 2011

Jesus4m3 said:
Thats your guru belief but in reality that is still life. Thats still a living creature, from my understanding with a microscope you can see them moving correct? Just because they havent developed a full human spine or w.e you want to add doesnt mean your not killing life.

You've never killed a fly, roach, mosquito, or used any kind of disinfectant when cleaning?

Storm · Jul 15, 2011

ReligionBro said:
I don't mean to attack you here, but your sexual frustration must be out of control if you only have sex to reproduce. You're just fooling yourself by telling your mind that you only want sex for kids.

Humans crave sexual attention, and you're just lying to yourself if you don't want sex.

Have fun, man! Live life! You only get one.

He may well be genuinely asexual. That said, I pity his wife....

Matthew78 · Jul 15, 2011

Kriya Yogi said:
Well you will eventually get tired of it just as everything becomes tiresome.

It's not just sex but romance in general. Sex is the greatest physical pleasure to me. A romantic relationship is the greatest psychological pleasure to me. There is just nothing to compare to it. My life's goal is to meet the lady of my dreams and I can't imagine anything that can come close to being meaningful to me than that.

When you realize that God's bliss is the only lasting happiness for you, you will realize that sex doesn't compare to it. Sex leaves you wanting more since it's temporary and it only leaves you moody and agitated after a while. Especially if abused. Not to mention it leaves you tired and unenergetic. The sex drive is there to test your will, but it also the polar opposite of God's bliss. There are similar spiritual experiences that can compare to sex but it is obviously more pure.

I'm not sure which "God" you have in mind here. Personally, I cannot believe that any loving, personal deity exists. I was single for most of my teen years and my twenties. This murdered my belief that any loving deity exists. This is why I can never be a born-again Christian. The fact that I was single for most of my life brutally murdered my belief in the loving grace of "Jesus Christ". It's now impossible for me to become convinced that Christ loves me or that Allah loves me or that I"m loved by any other divine being. It's completely and utterly impossible. Seriously!

Do you believe that there are any alternatives to bliss? Is annihilation one of them? Is reincarnation another one of them? If there exists a "soul" or a "spirit" of some sort, can I be annihilated instead? I don't want "bliss" with "God". If the sex drive is there to test my will, that makes me think you believe that the purpose is to renounce the sexual drive or reduce it. No thanks! Whatever your alternative to "bliss" is, I'll take it!

Matthew78 · Jul 15, 2011

Jesus4m3 said:
I strongly disagree with masturbation because you are killing life.

A sperm cell is just a single living cell. There are life forms that are more complex than a single living cell. Do you wash your hands with antibacterial soap and water after you use the toilet? If so, you're killing life. This is what gets me about Christians who say "Only God can create life and only God has the right to take it". So then, Christians who believe that have to believe that they're murdering life when they use the toilet and wash their hands after wiping their behinds.

Basically its murder in my eyes. Why? Because you just took away potential beings an opportunity to live.

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Your god murders all the time. If you doubt me, I invite you to read the book of Joshua. What your god had the ancient Hebrews do to the seven nations greater and mightier than the Hebrews is just plain murder. Besides, men have wet dreams all of the time. During a wet dream, semen is produced and ejaculated. This is involuntary on the part of human beings yet the sperm cells in the semen die.

That is why i believe its wrong. And how can you sit there and masturbate without thinking of someone or a private part?

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When I relieve myself, I do think of someone and that someone's private part. I enjoy it although it's not the same as the actual act itself.

To pleasure yourself that way to me is sin and that leads to other sinful acts. Thats why its a sin in my eyes. Its no different then abortion to me. Its just as equal. Idc who disagrees but my point is very valid to many.

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Well, then, you shouldn't be offended if people don't think it's valid here. Personally, if sexual pleasure, just for the point of experiencing physical pleasure, is sinful, then I don't want to have anything to do with the god that you worship. I find your theism hopelessly creepy but that's just me.

javajo · Jul 15, 2011

95% of men admit to it, the other 5% are liars. (not saying I condone nor condemn it, just sayin'...maybe try not to let it get too out of hand?...I dunno, jk)

If one believes life begins at conception (when the sperm fertilizes the egg), then one is not murdering anyone when they have an emission or release an egg. (they're just cells)

As for marriage, 1 Cor.7 says, "3 A husband should satisfy his wife's sexual needs. And a wife should satisfy her husband's sexual needs. 5 You shouldn't stop giving yourselves to each other except when you both agree to do so. And that should be only to give yourselves time to pray for a while. Then you should come together again. In that way, Satan will not tempt you when you can't control yourselves."

So according to that couples are supposed to do it, a lot, shouldn't stop, except when both agree (yeah that happens, lol), and then start doing it again asap! I try to get my wife to obey that passage more faithfully...

Lahunken · Jul 16, 2011

There is nothing explicitly against it in the Bible. Onan's sin was Onan's disobedient refusal to act for his brother, not the way he did that. Fleshly? It can relieve one of fleshly cravings for days.

Acim · Jul 16, 2011

Neophyte said:
So what are you thinking about when you jerk off? Roses? Lollipops? Blowfish?

Thanks a lot.

All your dirty talk has now caused me to change my underwear. You could've just left it at roses. But lollipops? And blowfish? That's some very raunchy imagery.

xkatz · Jul 16, 2011

Why would God give us the ability to ejaculate whenever we want if He only wanted it to be used during intercourse?

My answer- Because He actually doesn't care what you do with your junk*

*Just don't do anything illegal with it.

McBell · Jul 17, 2011

Jesus4m3 said:
Actually im not sinning since im married and on top of that i dont have sex unless im going to have another child. So technically not sinning. I dont have huge sex feelings like many. To me the desire of my physical body does not affect me.

So you have no intentions on actually addressing the points YOU brought up?

waitasec · Jul 17, 2011

Sweetly_Broken said:
How can you compare a menstrual cycle or noctyrnal emission (which is natural and uncontrollable) to masturbation (which is controllable)? I guess I just don't get that response.

i suggest you take a biology course....

sperm becomes less and less potent the longer it stays in the testicles...
the male body replenishes sperm...
it's healthy. ask dr oz...

Cthulhu · Jul 17, 2011

Humans are supposed to be polygamous. Research has shown that in creatures that have significant size differences between males and females, polygamy is the nearly ubiquitous trend. Males are larger than females. 20% is significant. Get the trend?

Pornography is also in no way degrading. Nor are prostitution, masturbation, or sexual deviancy. Stupidity on the other hand is frankly embarrassing. Not using condoms in today's world without testing for STDs, for example, is stupidity that will likely result in millions of deaths.

Matthew78 · Jul 17, 2011

Cthulhu said:
Humans are supposed to be polygamous. Research has shown that in creatures that have significant size differences between males and females, polygamy is the nearly ubiquitous trend. Males are larger than females. 20% is significant. Get the trend?

I hope not! I'm a very monogamous person. I can share many things in my life. However, I don't like sharing my sexual partners. I don't like the idea of having more than one wife or any wife of mine having more than one husband.

pray for pasta · Jul 18, 2011

this is a very funny read but very insightful . people think god is so strict sometimes i think god is more laid back then we think he gave us one life so i think its blasphemy not to enjoy it

Ramen!

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