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My View On Masturbation

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
Have you ever been part of one?
Perhaps you had a bad experience, do not judge it before you try it again. :p
Several. And it's not that they were bad, but I prefer one on one.

Threesomes are not the Holy Grail.
 

Reptillian

Hamburgler Extraordinaire
The truly religious individual will eventually master those other pesky natural desires like breathing and excreting waste too.

If Moses had placed rules on taking a dump, then I swear we'd have fundamentalist Christians that only go to the bathroom once week and spend the rest of their time praying for forgiveness.
 

Archer

Well-Known Member
The truly religious individual will eventually master those other pesky natural desires like breathing and excreting waste too.

If Moses had placed rules on taking a dump, then I swear we'd have fundamentalist Christians that only go to the bathroom once week and spend the rest of their time praying for forgiveness.

He did: Deuteronomy 23:12-13New American Standard Bible (NASB)

12 “You shall also have a place outside the camp and go out there, 13 and you shall have a [a]spade among your tools, and it shall be when you sit down outside, you shall dig with it and shall turn [b]to cover up your excrement.
 

Reptillian

Hamburgler Extraordinaire
He did: Deuteronomy 23:12-13New American Standard Bible (NASB)

12 “You shall also have a place outside the camp and go out there, 13 and you shall have a [a]spade among your tools, and it shall be when you sit down outside, you shall dig with it and shall turn [b]to cover up your excrement.

Lol, (holds up a Bible) "Have you ever read this thing? Technically, we're not allowed to go to the bathroom."
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
The truly religious individual will eventually master those other pesky natural desires like breathing and excreting waste too.

If Moses had placed rules on taking a dump, then I swear we'd have fundamentalist Christians that only go to the bathroom once week and spend the rest of their time praying for forgiveness.

But we do master the pesky natural desires we don't just go where we want. We use restrooms and yes you can be locked up or made to pay a fine if you take a leak on the side of the road.

Breathing you master as well if you can swim under water or perhaps have a fragrant friend.

You do not need to stop all your natural desires but be able to control them when necessary.
 

Neophyte

Miranda Kerr Worship
I'm still waiting for someone to disagree. It would be great to see another point of view.

I will play devils advocate. Now keep in mind I do not think masturbation or sex before marriage a sin. I do not even believe in sin, but I did at one point in time when I was a super-conservative Christian.

Maturbation is easily made a sin since Jesus stated to lust after a woman (who was not your wife) is to commit adultry in your heart and it is just as evil. So what are you thinking about when you jerk off? Roses? Lollipops? Blowfish? (Yes, pun inteneded on the last one). I dare say you are thinking of women. I could go into more detail but I think you get the point.

Again, I personally don't find it wrong, but I figured I would accept your challange.
 

Kriya Yogi

Dharma and Love for God
Masturbation is a good thing for those that need release. At some point in our spiritual advancement it will need to be disgarded altogether along with sex. You see in my beliefs our consciousness is tied to the body and not spirit because of our desires and our identification on subtle levels. When we are ready to take that next step towards truly knowing God and spirit we must become more controlled over our desires. Sex should be limited in use to those seeking God because the vital fluid in our sex organs is a huge source of vital energy. If over indulged with it can sap our happiness and in turn make us dull and it makes bliss harder to experience in meditation.
 

Matthew78

aspiring biblical scholar
Masturbation is a good thing for those that need release. At some point in our spiritual advancement it will need to be disgarded altogether along with sex. You see in my beliefs our consciousness is tied to the body and not spirit because of our desires and our identification on subtle levels. When we are ready to take that next step towards truly knowing God and spirit we must become more controlled over our desires. Sex should be limited in use to those seeking God because the vital fluid in our sex organs is a huge source of vital energy. If over indulged with it can sap our happiness and in turn make us dull and it makes bliss harder to experience in meditation.

Considering that I think sex is the greatest physical pleasure possible, I don't think I will ever want to discard it. If I can't achieve bliss, know God and spirit, well so much the worse for bliss, God, spirit, and all of that. I can't imagine ever wanting to give up sex or even diminish the need for sexual release. I shun any religion or spiritual philosophy which asks or even makes this kind of demand on me.

This is also one reason I utterly detest the Judeo-Christian concept of "Heaven". In heaven, there's no romance, no affection, no hard-kissing, no hand-holding, no sexual intimacy or any kind of sexual pleasure. In the grotesque "Heaven" of Christian fundamentalists and Evangelists, all believers are unmarried, celibate prudes for eternity, worshipping a being who demands this kind of deathly creepy and repulsive celibacy.

If this is "Heaven", then who needs "Hell"?
 

Neophyte

Miranda Kerr Worship
Considering that I think sex is the greatest physical pleasure possible, I don't think I will ever want to discard it. If I can't achieve bliss, know God and spirit, well so much the worse for bliss, God, spirit, and all of that. I can't imagine ever wanting to give up sex or even diminish the need for sexual release. I shun any religion or spiritual philosophy which asks or even makes this kind of demand on me.

This is also one reason I utterly detest the Judeo-Christian concept of "Heaven". In heaven, there's no romance, no affection, no hard-kissing, no hand-holding, no sexual intimacy or any kind of sexual pleasure. In the grotesque "Heaven" of Christian fundamentalists and Evangelists, all believers are unmarried, celibate prudes for eternity, worshipping a being who demands this kind of deathly creepy and repulsive celibacy.

If this is "Heaven", then who needs "Hell"?

Although I see your point I must add how deprived we are as humans for not being able to resolve our desire to swim upstream to lay our eggs. That is a driving force for salmon. Do you miss that desire? Of course not, just as we could easily live without sex if we did not have that driving desire. I do love sex, but life without it would not be Hell if we do not have the drive.
 

Kriya Yogi

Dharma and Love for God
Considering that I think sex is the greatest physical pleasure possible, I don't think I will ever want to discard it. If I can't achieve bliss, know God and spirit, well so much the worse for bliss, God, spirit, and all of that. I can't imagine ever wanting to give up sex or even diminish the need for sexual release. I shun any religion or spiritual philosophy which asks or even makes this kind of demand on me.

This is also one reason I utterly detest the Judeo-Christian concept of "Heaven". In heaven, there's no romance, no affection, no hard-kissing, no hand-holding, no sexual intimacy or any kind of sexual pleasure. In the grotesque "Heaven" of Christian fundamentalists and Evangelists, all believers are unmarried, celibate prudes for eternity, worshipping a being who demands this kind of deathly creepy and repulsive celibacy.

If this is "Heaven", then who needs "Hell"?

Well you will eventually get tired of it just as everything becomes tiresome. When you realize that God's bliss is the only lasting happiness for you, you will realize that sex doesn't compare to it. Sex leaves you wanting more since it's temporary and it only leaves you moody and agitated after a while. Especially if abused. Not to mention it leaves you tired and unenergetic. The sex drive is there to test your will, but it also the polar opposite of God's bliss. There are similar spiritual experiences that can compare to sex but it is obviously more pure.
 

Jesus4m3

Stop Being Ignorant!
I strongly disagree with masturbation because you are killing life. Basically its murder in my eyes. Why? Because you just took away potential beings an opportunity to live. That is why i believe its wrong. And how can you sit there and masturbate without thinking of someone or a private part? To pleasure yourself that way to me is sin and that leads to other sinful acts. Thats why its a sin in my eyes. Its no different then abortion to me. Its just as equal. Idc who disagrees but my point is very valid to many.
 

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
I strongly disagree with masturbation because you are killing life. Basically its murder in my eyes. Why? Because you just took away potential beings an opportunity to live. That is why i believe its wrong. And how can you sit there and masturbate without thinking of someone or a private part? To pleasure yourself that way to me is sin and that leads to other sinful acts. Thats why its a sin in my eyes. Its no different then abortion to me. Its just as equal. Idc who disagrees but my point is very valid to many.
So you must also think that every menstrual cycle is also a sin, right up there with abortion, correct?

And every time you have sex you are also sinning, right?
I mean unless EVERY ONE of the millions of spermazoas released fertilizes an egg....

God forbid you have a nocturnal emission.
Oh my goodness, you mass murderer!

I dare say that you best be glad abortion is not illegal.
Other wise you would be in some really deep ****....
 
So you must also think that every menstrual cycle is also a sin, right up there with abortion, correct?

And every time you have sex you are also sinning, right?
I mean unless EVERY ONE of the millions of spermazoas released fertilizes an egg....

God forbid you have a nocturnal emission.
Oh my goodness, you mass murderer!

I dare say that you best be glad abortion is not illegal.
Other wise you would be in some really deep ****....

How can you compare a menstrual cycle or noctyrnal emission (which is natural and uncontrollable) to masturbation (which is controllable)? I guess I just don't get that response.
 

Ekanta

om sai ram
The semen needs to get replaced by new one since it grows old. If you dont masturbate, you will naturally ejeculate while sleeping/dreaming instead, now and then. You might also get your relieve that way.
 
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McBell

Resident Sourpuss
How can you compare a menstrual cycle or noctyrnal emission (which is natural and uncontrollable) to masturbation (which is controllable)? I guess I just don't get that response.
I am not the one making the comparison.
He is.
Only it appears that he has not thought it through very well.

According to his "logic" every menstrual cycle is a potential life that failed.
If the women does not take every measure to impregnate herself with EVERY single egg released, she has killed a potential life.

The same goes for every sperm that does not fertilize an egg.
 
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averageJOE

zombie
I strongly disagree with masturbation because you are killing life. Basically its murder in my eyes. Why? Because you just took away potential beings an opportunity to live. That is why i believe its wrong. And how can you sit there and masturbate without thinking of someone or a private part? To pleasure yourself that way to me is sin and that leads to other sinful acts. Thats why its a sin in my eyes. Its no different then abortion to me. Its just as equal. Idc who disagrees but my point is very valid to many.
This is one of the funniest posts I've seen in a long time!

Your body produces sperm every day. Are you saying that you make it a point to impregnate at least one woman a day?
 
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