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Who IS "The Only TRUE God"- as Jesus put it?
- Thread starter theMadJW
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Dirty Penguin
Master Of Ceremony
But read in context and in conjunction as to what the biblical Yeshua said in his prayer to his god you have failed at accurately proving your point.
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Interesting post ^above^ dirty penguin. Thought it was worth repeating.
So according to scripture, Jesus Christ is the True God. 1 Jn 5:20
20And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
20And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
Shermana
Heretic
Blackheart
Active Member
I dont get it... You ask the question but yet your own answer doesnt even address the question!
There are many entities that claim to be the true God. Why are you wasting this post on your own pre determind conclusion? Id love an answer to the actual question!
waitasec
Veteran Member
yup...better get used to it...:sarcastic
Blackheart
Active Member
So who is Jesus's father?
Yes, so I believe both. John writes both in 1 Jn 5:20
20And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
Jn 17:3
3And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
God the Father. Notice Eph 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
Blackheart
Active Member
Dont both of these scriptures say that Jesus is the Son of God?!
I only see one that says that, thats 1 Jn 5:20, Jesus is the Son of God. But He also is the True God.
Jesus father is also his God according to Revelation 3 vs12, 14 B
KJV mentions two [2] LORD/Lord's at Psalm 110v1.
The LORD [YHWH] in all upper case letters is Jesus' father.
The Lord not in all upper case letter refers to Jesus
The tetragrammaton [YHWH] is never applied to Jesus.
Dirty Penguin
Master Of Ceremony
You can go back where I broke the verse down. Trinitarians say Yeshua is "God" even though the "ASCENDED" Yeshua said 4 times in Rev. 3:12 he had a god. Chapters 4 and 5 irrefutably show that The Lamb (Yeshua) and his god are completely separate.....
Blackheart
Active Member
Dont you think that you shold have clear scriptual evidence for this before you state it as a fact? Are you not afraid that you could be blaspheming?
I mean there is an absolute abundance of evidence that Jesus and the father are two seperate entities. I mean who do you think Jesus was preying to? And where do people get this trinity thing from anyway?
Shermana
Heretic
Assuming you passed basic English, you are aware that the subject of the sentence is sometimes dependent on the preceding words.
"I took my dogs out to hunt some ducks. I killed all of them."
Who am I referring to, the ducks or the dogs?
kepha31
Active Member
What translation might that be?
A list of scripture citations, (about 130) followed by a brief exegesis, on the Divinity of Christ:
Scripture Catholic - JESUS CHRIST'S DIVINITY - SOME OF MANY EXAMPLES
Shermana
Heretic
From your site
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The first commandment is to not have any gods BEFORE God, which means to hold the Most High as the Most High, and to call "gods" with the lower case g. "To worship" means to bow down to physically, yet David and Angels were bowed down to. Worshiping God as The Most High, God of the gods (psalm 136:2) is the commandment.
At least your site doesn't try to attack the grammatical correctness of the "a god" reading. It should also be noted, there are versions other than the JW that correctly use "a god", and it should be noted that all the major translations which use "God" were published by Trinitarians. There is no grammatical argument against using it as "a god".
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I guess Paul violated this in 2 Corinthians 4:4 when he talks about the Evil one as "The god of this world". I guess Jesus was guilty too when he quoted Psalm 82:6 "you are gods". I guess the Psalmist of 136:2 broke that commandment 2.
The first commandment is to not have any gods BEFORE God, which means to hold the Most High as the Most High, and to call "gods" with the lower case g. "To worship" means to bow down to physically, yet David and Angels were bowed down to. Worshiping God as The Most High, God of the gods (psalm 136:2) is the commandment.
At least your site doesn't try to attack the grammatical correctness of the "a god" reading. It should also be noted, there are versions other than the JW that correctly use "a god", and it should be noted that all the major translations which use "God" were published by Trinitarians. There is no grammatical argument against using it as "a god".
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