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Perception...what it has to offer

Is reality subjective

  • Yes, reality is completely subjective

    Votes: 1 25.0%
  • No, reality is not subjective

    Votes: 3 75.0%
  • Kind of, depends on if its "reality" or "realities"

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    4

Orias

Left Hand Path
Do the things around us not exist because of perception?

Is the reality we live in, not based upon a common apprehension of the world?

Can this reality we live in, even be objectionally based in the general population?

Just been having a few questions lately, and one of the debate threads that got me to thinking about these was closed and there was a few posts that I would of like to of responded to, but anyways I was wondering what you guys think...

If reality is objectively based, then why does reality not justify its own existence. I mean anyone can say "I exist, it should be obvious", but the reality is that those who once existed can no longer say, "I don't exist", we are just here to acknowledge there now nonexistence.

With that said, doesn't that essentially mean that reality only exists because we are here to perceive it to be.

I mean, if you don't exist you couldn't possibly have the knowledge of what is.
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
Reality exist whether we directly observe it or not.
If one man travels east, and another west.
And they meet in the woods of Wisconsin.
Under a tall Oak.
They will both see the same tree, even though they have never met before.
That Oak tree existed long before these men observed it.
The Oak tree is objectively real, how the men feel about the tree is subjective.
 

ellenjanuary

Well-Known Member
Subjective - in that "objective reality" is merely the most probable convergence of local subjective realities.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Reality exist whether we directly observe it or not.
If one man travels east, and another west.
And they meet in the woods of Wisconsin.
Under a tall Oak.
They will both see the same tree, even though they have never met before.
That Oak tree existed long before these men observed it.
The Oak tree is objectively real, how the men feel about the tree is subjective.
Indeed. Perception AFFECTS our experience of reality. To an extent, our perception, based on our moods, thoughts and beliefs colors reality in a very subjective way. In and of itself, Perception is NOT reality, however.

Almost from the first line of my extended piece, Perception IS reality, I point out that I am meaning "reality" from the subjective viewpoint and that perspective should not be confused with greater reality as a whole.

In essence, even if something is very real to the individual, due to their perception, it does not mean another human animal will perceive the same thing. More accurately, perception is reality to the individual perspective.

I've only scratched the surface on this topic and I perceive I shall be investigating for some time to come - at least, that is my perception. :)
 
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Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
Do the things around us not exist because of perception?

Is the reality we live in, not based upon a common apprehension of the world?

Can this reality we live in, even be objectionally based in the general population?

Just been having a few questions lately, and one of the debate threads that got me to thinking about these was closed and there was a few posts that I would of like to of responded to, but anyways I was wondering what you guys think...

If reality is objectively based, then why does reality not justify its own existence. I mean anyone can say "I exist, it should be obvious", but the reality is that those who once existed can no longer say, "I don't exist", we are just here to acknowledge there now nonexistence.

With that said, doesn't that essentially mean that reality only exists because we are here to perceive it to be.

I mean, if you don't exist you couldn't possibly have the knowledge of what is.
Do you really want me to answer "yes and no" to each of these questions? :D

Else, you need better questions.
 
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