Uh, when did this declaration of oneness say that it's alone with something?
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Uh, when did this declaration of oneness say that it's alone with something?
bhaktajan
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"Alone with something"?
vs.
"In the company of Nothing"?
Aren't Ghosts famously "In the company of Nothing"?
... I have no idea what you're talking about. I've never heard ghosts referred to in that way.
bhaktajan
Active Member
There is no "lone" being ---left in the picture?
An 'All together now' mass? with only the still-conscious watching over?
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bhaktajan
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Question: Which is the advaita turya state,
Being "alone Alone with "something"?
Or is it Being "In the company of Nothing"?
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My meantion of "Ghost" is my reference to the body made of "Mind-Intelligence-Ego" that remains after a suicide ---thus, a Ghost (san. bhuta) exists consciously yet without a gross body ---still desiring but alas without the facility to gratify any desires . . . until the karmic debt subsides and enters a new birth.
The ghost scenario parallels the Bhrasta-yogi (a yogi who back-tracks on the path to moksha; one who has fallen from the path of self-realization; The unsuccessful yogi --Bg6.41-43) ---esp., the Yogi that merges into the Brahmajyoti effulgence, that later, returns to take birth again.
Being "alone Alone with "something"?
Or is it Being "In the company of Nothing"?
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My meantion of "Ghost" is my reference to the body made of "Mind-Intelligence-Ego" that remains after a suicide ---thus, a Ghost (san. bhuta) exists consciously yet without a gross body ---still desiring but alas without the facility to gratify any desires . . . until the karmic debt subsides and enters a new birth.
The ghost scenario parallels the Bhrasta-yogi (a yogi who back-tracks on the path to moksha; one who has fallen from the path of self-realization; The unsuccessful yogi --Bg6.41-43) ---esp., the Yogi that merges into the Brahmajyoti effulgence, that later, returns to take birth again.
bhaktajan
Active Member
"Zero & One" are two distinct entities.
0+1 = 1. So that will satisfy Advaitin thinking Mathematicians, but "One Brahman" may be the Biological father of the singularly unique "Zero" ---of what service is "being conscious" of either "Zero" or its better-half, "One"?
Of what service is "being conscious" of either "Zero" or its better-half, "One"?
To learn, after endless samsara to, "Hide like a withdrawn Turtle"?
yeah, yet another metaphor,
Bhaktajan
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
In my delirious opinion, both ideas are mistaken as both presuppose an "other". In a true state of Oneness, there is no "other", there is no "nothing", there is no "company". There is only Being.
Sadly, I must look at the DIR that this comment is made in and curb the enthusiasm of my possible critique. Are said view above widely accepted?
zenzero
Its only a Label
Friend Bhaktajan,
Thanks for the reminder.
There is none what soever as it is nothingness to even declare anything leave alone being alone. Consciousness is merely consciousness.
If at all one as part of that existence express as a number it is just one.
It is a binary world where we have either zero or one!
In fact even one makes a meaning only because of zero without understanding zero one has no meaning.
Love & rgds
Thanks for the reminder.
There is none what soever as it is nothingness to even declare anything leave alone being alone. Consciousness is merely consciousness.
If at all one as part of that existence express as a number it is just one.
It is a binary world where we have either zero or one!
In fact even one makes a meaning only because of zero without understanding zero one has no meaning.
Love & rgds
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
bhaktajan
Active Member
No "MY FRIEND" Consciousness is Persona.
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"Zero" + "One" = the whole picture; the whole vista.
a] "One" is composed of duality of opposites (ie ying-yang; or, raja & tama guna) thus vibrating sound 'OM'.
b] "Zero" is composed of undifferentiated omnipresent pure existence without material taints.
These two are maintained by "Persona".
Only one singular self-born Autocrat is entitled to be the Supreme personality of Personality ---God's Supreme Resplendent Majesty is predictated upon His Personage and His Smile. Entrancement by Persona ---over and above all other allurements ever encountered.
journey on my wayward son,
Bhaktajan
I'm sorry, Bhaktajan, but I have no idea what you're talking about.
bhaktajan
Active Member
The whole picture, the entire 'Material' creation is composed of two items:
"1" and "0"
"1" = duality of opposites (matter & energy).
"0" = pure existence (empty void) without material taints.
Above and beyond the above Matter-Energy-and-time is a "Persona" supervising the action.
No?
BTW, "journey on my wayward son" (yes this is from an old rock'n roll song) refers to the Souls sojourning in samsara until absolute salvation is achieved.
"1" and "0"
"1" = duality of opposites (matter & energy).
"0" = pure existence (empty void) without material taints.
Above and beyond the above Matter-Energy-and-time is a "Persona" supervising the action.
No?
BTW, "journey on my wayward son" (yes this is from an old rock'n roll song) refers to the Souls sojourning in samsara until absolute salvation is achieved.
...so all of reality is based in Machine language?
I thought 1 was essentially "on", "true", etc., while 0 was "off", "false," etc.
According to the panentheistic school of thought, where God is both a part of and separate from creation.
It is said that the entirety of creation is contained within Lord Ganesha's belly.
I though it was "carry on my wayward son."
zenzero
Its only a Label
Friend Riverwolf,
personal understanding:
Rest friend Bhaktajan will respond his side.
Love & rgds
personal understanding:
Languages have been developed by humans to share the understanding of LIFE/EXISTENCE itself and so machine languages too is based on REALITY.
Yes, duality stands that way as it is light or absence of light etc. On/off
Rest friend Bhaktajan will respond his side.
Love & rgds
bhaktajan
Active Member
“AS YOU LIKE IT”
Art Reflects Life & Life reflects Art ---together they are one.
The cosmic play, that we are in, reveals our “human body” as a microcosm.
It can be said, 'As it is in the Micro . . . so also, it is in the Macro'*.
It can also be said, 'Without the presence of a Persona . . . all paraphenalia is devoid of purpose'.
But beware the old computer-data-entry maxim:
‘Garage in; Garbage out’.
Yours truly,
Bhaktajan
“All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players”
[*have I expressed a 'dualist' maxim?]
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