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The forum reads: Athiesm vs. Creationism

jarofthoughts

Empirical Curmudgeon
??? Carbon-14 dating has been proven wrong along time ago by many respected scientists worldwide. Without C-14 dating what proof is there for evolution? Um nothing! The word fossil is from the latin 'fosilis' meaning 'dug up'. 'Fossils' don't come with a tag saying '300 million years old'. The elite cannot date rocks, bones or the creation to be 4,6 billion- pushing their ideology is called pseudo-scientific PROPAGANDA! First in 1975 they said the world is a million yrs old, then later two million, then three, and now they claim the world is 4,6 billion years old. How come they can change their athiestic ideology as often as they change their socks??? But YaHWeH does not change. Their isn't and never was ANY proof for evolution. The word 'evolve' means to 'unroll', like a scroll. Adaptations exist, evolution doesn't! The evolutionary dogma is fundamentally an athiestic dogma, not wanting to glorify the living God for His creation... To believe we came from nothing, nowhere, and no-one knows is absolute madness! And unfortunately the devil has many children so the world is full of psychoz

:D :D :D


Oh...
You're serious...

Nevermind.

:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
THERE ARE NUMEROUS FLAWS WITHIN the doctrine of evolution, and what's sad is people tend to ignore certain questions and hinder their own spiritual development.

I don't know what the doctrine of evolution would be. Maybe you would like to explain it?

If you meant to talk about the Theory of Evolution, well, it is quite simply an explanation of how lifeforms change along generations and originate new species. It is about as solid as anything could conceivably be in Biology, despite a very impressive amount of effort from some people to spread heavy propaganda to say that it isn't so. So no, there are not "numerous flaws" in the biological theory of evolution. It is being perfected still, as are all scientific theories... but it is indeed correct unless you are willing to believe that maybe God is a prankster or something similar.

That said, it IS a shame that people hinder their own religious wisdom out of fear of scientific findings. That, however, is a challenge that the Creationists have to face and learn to overcome.
 

RitalinO.D.

Well-Known Member
Abuser wrote:If we look at pure black and white terminology, if you're paid at all then you're not a slave. Imperialist societies weren't the only ones to have slaves either
*if you're paid peanuts and live in a tiny place and OWE the bank money then you are a slave, you will be thrown in jail like a criminal if you don't payup. The middle/working class are the slaves and the poor are there just to scare the **** out of us, to keep us showing up at those jobs!
Immortalflame wrote:perhaps, then, you don't understand that a slave is literally a person that you own and is considered your property. If you're okay with that, then your moral compass is broken.
*i wanted to farm veggies as a young teen, instead I had to go serve people food, or try to sell **** like raffle tickets just so I could put food in my mouth, my dreams were destroyed under the banner of progressa. The government doesn't want us to subsistence farm, it wants us to build an economy so that the elite can enjoy all the best pleasures, living waaaay above their means. You can call it an economy, I call it slavery!

God's a figment of imagination that caught on.???? Really? Maybe godlessness is like a disease spreading like a wild fire.

Teapot wrote:if facts shake your belief, then your belief wasn't strong in the first place
*when did facts 'shake' my beliefs? Rather facts strengthen my beliefs, afterall, how can you stake your life on something you cannot logically demonstrate!


Drake wrote:'m just thrown over the title of this thread. How can one not understand that there are far more theists who accept evolution then there are theists who believe in creation?
*well as Jesus said: Not everyone who calls me 'lord, lord' shall enter the Kingdom of Heaven BUT HE WHO *DOES* THE WILL of my Father in heaven. Many will say to me in that day "lord lord have we not healed the sick, raised the dead and drove out my demons." And I will say to them "get away from me, I never knew you"
Mestemias wrote:What proof is there of evolution?
I do not know about "proof" but there is tons of evidence.
*i have googled it and still don't believe it. Finding 100year old men skeletons who had degeneratve bone diseases like rickets and walked crouching forward isn't 'evidence' that monkeys rose from walking on 4 legs to 2 legs. Putting a filed human jaw bone on a human bone and claiming its a primitive half-monkey man(piltdown man) isn't 'evidence'.
To all 'evolutionists' : what does it feel like to believe a doctrine started by liars several decades ago? What does it feel like to stand on the shoulders of men who fabricated evidence for evolution?? I won't be able to sleep at night knowing my 'prophets' are a bunch of ideological liars!
Mestemia wrote:In 1862, the physicist William Thomson (who later became Lord Kelvin) of Glasgow published calculations that fixed the age of Earth at between 20 million and 400 million years
*between 20&400 million years???? Whahahhhhaah my nephew could have made such a generalized GUESS! Are we to take these people seriously when all they do is theorise??? No thanks!

&:Your blatant dishonesty is most revealing.?????
What on earth are you talking about?

&:You do an awful lot of whining about n proof for evolution yet have no problems with the serious lack of proof for your chosen god?
*Love and respect is good evidence for Gods existence. Take out the fear of God and Judgement day and you have a recipe for rape, murder, extortion, torture and the like. Men know its wrong to molest their daughters, and why? Because they know God is a Holy God and gives to every man according to his works. Athiests are devils advocates, excusing the wicked, and living in sin themselves, its why they won't come to the Light.
&:Where did your god come from?
My God is a formless God, He always was in formlessness. He has no beginning. He didn't come from anywhere, He always WAS!
Afterglow wrote:
The sooner you let go of your fantasy and accept the world as it exists, the sooner you will find happiness
Who said I'm not happy? Just because I think evolution is a delusion doesn't mean I'm sad, get over yourself please!
Abuser wrote: Then why worry about what they believe?
Who said I'm worrying? Its strange, you guys think you know what's going on in my head? No actually you want me to be a sad worrisome person so you can feel better about your own delusions
Teapot wrote:Kelvin was the person who gave us absolute zero temperature. Ever heard of temperature mentioned in Kelvins? Um wtf does some scientist have to do with the YaHWeHs power of Creation.
Mest wrote:You pulled numbers out your backside, clearly showing you know nothing about what you whine about, and are now trying to move the goal posts
*um my numbers come from the textbooks published in american schools, your dates come from illuminati.com
&You are free to believe whatever you like.
However, when you start spouting bull **** about things you know nothing about, you should expect to be called on it.
Especially on this forum.
*Please go to a mirror and read this to yourself, thankyou
Drake wrote:Wait. If a theist accepts the fact of evolution they are a closet atheist? Is that what you are implying?
*exactly, they are deceived by computer generated dogma. You arnt a thiesta because then you would KNOW God is ALL-powerful and can do ANYTHING, and not merel what your limited psyche can comprehend
Riverwolf wrote:I guess he hasn't heard of the idea that evolution is the method of creation.
*well I guess you havnt heard of God creating man in an instant.
***if the world is millions of yrs old then why are the oldest trees and deserts etc only around 4400 years old and dated to the flood of noah???? Yip, athiests will duck and dive what I just wrote, they're good at only looking at their 'proof'. Its a biast perception to begin with so what good can come out of it?
skwim wrote:C'mon guys, washme is trying as hard as he can.
*trying hard to do what? Convert athiests? Ha that's like trying to draw water from a rock. I didn't come to convert but to show creationists how hypocritical you ppl are!
Shadow wrote: "steps" in the fossil record?????????
You get some bones together and call them links yet completely ignoring that fact that NO GENETIC MATERIAL has ever changed through 'evolutionary steps'. A dog is stil a dog, a monkey is a monkey and a human is a human.
---------We CANNOT procreate with monkies and bring forth children so its proof we ARNT the same or even come from the same being. The only similarity is that we all come from 'dust', or 'sand'
Steps in the fossil records? lmfao
If you wanna believe and teach your children we were a piece of snot that rolled off a rock and turned into a tick eating monkey, then you're free to believe that delusion, a lot of people will agree with you, but don't expect everyone to.

Was the first monkey a hermaphrodite??????? Or did a male and female monkey appear at the same time and find eachother and have the first boy and girl???
THERE ARE NUMEROUS FLAWS WITHIN the doctrine of evolution, and what's sad is people tend to ignore certain questions and hinder their own spiritual development.

Tumbleweed wrote:Chronometric Dating
Dendrochronology.
Florine absorption.
Oxidizeable carbon dating.
Rehydroxylation dating.
Iodine-xenon dating
Obsidian hydration dating
Radiometric dating
Argon–argon dating
K–Ar dating
Helium dating
Isochron dating
Radiocarbon dating
Rubidium-strontium dating
Samarium-neodymium dating
Uranium-lead dating
Uranium-thorium dating
Uranium-uranium dating
Fission track dating
Cosmogenic radionuclide dating
Rhenium-osmium dating
Rubidium-strontium dating
Optical dating
Spectrum analysis.
etc, etc, etc....
*thats right tumbleweed, oppress free thought with scientific jargon. Make us look stupid with your fancy words and non-verified calculation systems. Are we now just supposed to go 'yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir" without being able to do the obscure experimental calculations ourselves.
You posted dogma my friend!

Darkend wrote:As dating methods are updated, so are theories
Yip you said it, THEORIES, thanks :)

Greystone wrote:How do they also explain dinosaurs?
*theyre actually called dragons and scientists found t-rex blood a few years ago. Google 't-rex blood found'. It couldn't survive for millions and millions of years. Dragons still exist today. There were many stories of brave men slaying the last dragon in the past. Crocodiles, lochness monster, pterodactyls in africa called 'kongomoto'. Yip some dragons are still alive and kicking
*wrote:How do creationists also claim that the entire worlds' human population is descended from just one couple when that would mean incest ie brothers marrying sisters which is strictly forbidden in Christian teaching.
*simple, moses only brought the law later. Yes adam and eve were guilty of sin, why does that surprise you? Aand what's the genepool of a monkey? Even in your 'evolution' theory, the first two monkeys which miraculously appeared at the same time with male and female genetalia had to be involved in incest, there's no way of avoid this touchy subject. Adam and eve weren't perfect remember!

lol wow. You sir have a LONG way to go before you are even close to knowing anything about evolution, or science in general.

BTW, there is a quote function for your convenience. It will also help us be able to actually read what you write without saying screw it and moving on to the next post.
 
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Draka

Wonder Woman
Drake wrote:'m just thrown over the title of this thread. How can one not understand that there are far more theists who accept evolution then there are theists who believe in creation?
*well as Jesus said: Not everyone who calls me 'lord, lord' shall enter the Kingdom of Heaven BUT HE WHO *DOES* THE WILL of my Father in heaven. Many will say to me in that day "lord lord have we not healed the sick, raised the dead and drove out my demons." And I will say to them "get away from me, I never knew you"

First off, it's Draka, not Drake. If you used the quote function then you wouldn't have to worry about messing up all our names.

Secondly, Your answer to my question does not answer it at all. It has nothing to do with what I said.


Drake wrote:Wait. If a theist accepts the fact of evolution they are a closet atheist? Is that what you are implying?
*exactly, they are deceived by computer generated dogma. You arnt a thiesta because then you would KNOW God is ALL-powerful and can do ANYTHING, and not merel what your limited psyche can comprehend
No, I'm a theist, as many many many people are, who happens to not be a Christian. You do understand that concept don't you? That "theist" just means someone who believes in some form or concept of deity right? It doesn't mean all believe in the same idea or one particular concept of deity. Theist does not equal Christian. So purely Christian concepts have no bearing on all theists. Only the ones who happen to be Christian. So it is perfectly acceptable for a theist to accept evolution. In fact, the vast majority of theists do. Matter of fact, considering the Earth's population statistics, I'd wager to say that there are more theists that understand and accept evolution than there are atheists by the mere fact that there are more theists in the world than atheists.
 

RitalinO.D.

Well-Known Member
First off, it's Draka, not Drake. If you used the quote function then you wouldn't have to worry about messing up all our names.

Secondly, Your answer to my question does not answer it at all. It has nothing to do with what I said.


No, I'm a theist, as many many many people are, who happens to not be a Christian. You do understand that concept don't you? That "theist" just means someone who believes in some form or concept of deity right? It doesn't mean all believe in the same idea or one particular concept of deity. Theist does not equal Christian. So purely Christian concepts have no bearing on all theists. Only the ones who happen to be Christian. So it is perfectly acceptable for a theist to accept evolution. In fact, the vast majority of theists do. Matter of fact, considering the Earth's population statistics, I'd wager to say that there are more theists that understand and accept evolution than there are atheists by the mere fact that there are more theists in the world than atheists.

There are plenty of Xtians that understand and accept evolution as well. Labeling them closet atheists actually detracts from you claiming to be a Xtian.

*edit* the last comment is actually directed at washme not you Draka.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Folks at this time id like you to fasten your seatbelts, there is a YEC on board and its going to get bumpy :)
 

washme

Member
Android wrote: There is nothing stopping you from looking up each one of those dating methods and learning exactly how they work.
*now tell me android, do I sound stupid to you. In your evolution THEORY a male and female monkey spontaneously arrive on the scene at the same time, with different genetalia for reproduction wow isn't that amazing! You want me to believe such a blatant controversy and then WASTE my time studying elite funded calculations that CANNOT prove anything is more than a thousand years old. Please you wakeup and realize NO method of calculation can go back millions of years. You believe 'evolution' because you WANT to believe it, not because its provable. And I don't believe in the education system which is nothing more then a tool for elitist propaganda. Teach your children at home to read, count etc etc. We don't need these rocket-scientist gurus to tell us about reality, we can logically work it out without a state controlled degree, were not braindead you know.
&wrote: Please remove your helmet and let natural selection have it's way with you.
*natural selection????? This is dogma, there is no such thing. You are referring to 'adaptation' which is controlled by the environment. things adapt, they don't evolve THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE and evolutionists do well to blur the line between fact and fiction. You are the ignorant, lazy, mentally challenged individual, using THEORIES as though they're fact!!!! Its sooooo dangerous for your own rational and logical psychological development.
And no-one seems to talk about where the monkey came from. Tell me: what did it evolve from???
Frog + kiss = frog
Frog - kiss + millions of years = mankind
If a frog turns into a man its a fairytale, but if a frog runs around for a million years it turns into a man??????????????
And why havnt the frogs of today evolved. How come after millions of years are they stil just frogs????????
My calculation looks like this:
YaHWeH + power + 6 sunsets = mankind
LuisD wrote:If you meant to talk about the Theory of Evolution, well, it is quite simply an explanation of how lifeforms change along generations and originate new species. It is about as solid as anything could conceivably be in Biology, despite a very impressive amount of effort from some people to spread heavy propaganda to say that it isn't so.
*how lifeforms change? A frog is stil a frog. A wolf is stil a wolf, we just call them 'dogs' now because they have adapted so much. They adapted, they didn't evolve!!! Charles darwins book was on adaptation, not evolution -read his book again. And its an observation, not propaganda. Were allowed to think you know!!!
As a wise man said: Question everyone, everything.
Evolution is the state FUNDED religion. Nebraska man and piltdown man were both proven fake. Your forefathers are liars my friends.
************A please tell me what came before the monkey and with the steps taken through 'natural selection', thankyou.********

Willemena wrote:Yup, theories. :) Just like gravity
*well gravity is a theory. The word grave means serious, not pulling down. In two decades time when they stop using the word and only refer to electroMAGNETIC forces then setup a topic about me, washme :)-' Electrons cling together, gravity is a theoretical term hahahaha I never was brainwashed at school thank God :)
Draka wrote:Secondly, Your answer to my question does not answer it at all. It has nothing to do with what I said
I did answer it but you don't understand so ill explain it simply. Most 'theists' are not God believing at all, ever heard of wolves in sheeps clothing? Well there are a lot of them. Ppl call themselves christians but they're not true believers, they are just 'socially programmed'
&wrote:Theist does not equal Christian. So purely Christian concepts have no bearing on all theists.
The word is derived from the greek 'theo' meaning God. Now how you can seperate true Judaism, which is Christianity, and God is a wonder to me. The holy prophets documented an account of their relationship with God and is proven by many true predictions and numerous artifacts including bones found of the Anakim(giants), dead sea scrolls, etc etc
To seperate theism and christianity is a distortion of the facts -an ignorant & hypocritical system of self-worship under a pretence. A masqurade.
&wrote:by the mere fact that there are more theists in the world than atheists.
*Do you honestly believe roman catholics are theists? What is your 'fact' based upon here? it seems terribly inaccurate!
Thanks for the debate guys and girls :p I havnt been convinced that I once ate ticks off my brothers back. You're welcome to believe whatever you want seriously lmfao
 
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LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
You know, Washme, you have just demonstrated all our points just by attempting to "refute" them.

You are not just misunderstanding and misrepresenting the Theory of Evolution; you are falling solidly into strawmen and even slander while at that.

Either you are not even aware of even the basics of what Biological Evolution is, or you are purposely lying about it.

Is it because you are offended by the idea that humanity is not alone and special among all beings?
 

washme

Member
LuisD wrote:You are not just misunderstanding and misrepresenting the Theory of Evolution; you are falling solidly into strawmen and even slander while at that.
*well You are not just misunderstanding and misrepresenting the Creation; you are falling solidly into strawmen and even slander while at that.

& wrote:Either you are not even aware of even the basics of what Biological Evolution is, or you are purposely lying about it.
*well Either you are not even aware of even the basics of what Creation is, or you are purposely lying about it.

&wrote:Is it because you are offended by the idea that humanity is not alone and special among all beings?
*Let me guess: you believe in aliens?? Something you've only seen on a hollywood movie set. Space is a fierce oven. Gamma radiation kills in a nano-second, I assure you little green slimy men don't exist. You're allowed to believe fairytales but please keep your writings in the fiction section, thankyou.
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
LuisD wrote:You are not just misunderstanding and misrepresenting the Theory of Evolution; you are falling solidly into strawmen and even slander while at that.
*well You are not just misunderstanding and misrepresenting the Creation; you are falling solidly into strawmen and even slander while at that.

& wrote:Either you are not even aware of even the basics of what Biological Evolution is, or you are purposely lying about it.
*well Either you are not even aware of even the basics of what Creation is, or you are purposely lying about it.

&wrote:Is it because you are offended by the idea that humanity is not alone and special among all beings?
*Let me guess: you believe in aliens?? Something you've only seen on a hollywood movie set. Space is a fierce oven. Gamma radiation kills in a nano-second, I assure you little green slimy men don't exist. You're allowed to believe fairytales but please keep your writings in the fiction section, thankyou.

Are you ten years old?

I ask this, because only a pre-adolescent would formulate arguments like these.
 

RitalinO.D.

Well-Known Member
I honestly don't even know how to respond to this guy. I don't think Im capable of dumbing myself down that much.

Washme, what exactly about TOE offends you? Because you sound as if it has insulted you or something.

And try to articulate it a tad better than "Your stupid if you dont think the way I do".
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
LuisD wrote:You are not just misunderstanding and misrepresenting the Theory of Evolution; you are falling solidly into strawmen and even slander while at that.
*well You are not just misunderstanding and misrepresenting the Creation; you are falling solidly into strawmen and even slander while at that.

Woah there, pal. Not so fast.

I am entitled to disbelieve Christianity. Don't misrepresent that as well, please. I have no duty whatsoever to share your faith.


& wrote:Either you are not even aware of even the basics of what Biological Evolution is, or you are purposely lying about it.
*well Either you are not even aware of even the basics of what Creation is, or you are purposely lying about it.

Neither. I simply choose facts and scientific findings over superstition and blind tradition.


&wrote:Is it because you are offended by the idea that humanity is not alone and special among all beings?
*Let me guess: you believe in aliens?? Something you've only seen on a hollywood movie set. Space is a fierce oven. Gamma radiation kills in a nano-second, I assure you little green slimy men don't exist. You're allowed to believe fairytales but please keep your writings in the fiction section, thankyou.

So you understand why I don't take Creationism seriously. Then why are you preaching that which you don't believe in? :confused:
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
Tumbleweed wrote:Chronometric Dating
Dendrochronology.
Florine absorption.
Oxidizeable carbon dating.
Rehydroxylation dating.
Iodine-xenon dating
Obsidian hydration dating
Radiometric dating
Argon–argon dating
K–Ar dating
Helium dating
Isochron dating
Radiocarbon dating
Rubidium-strontium dating
Samarium-neodymium dating
Uranium-lead dating
Uranium-thorium dating
Uranium-uranium dating
Fission track dating
Cosmogenic radionuclide dating
Rhenium-osmium dating
Rubidium-strontium dating
Optical dating
Spectrum analysis.
etc, etc, etc....
*thats right tumbleweed, oppress free thought with scientific jargon. Make us look stupid with your fancy words and non-verified calculation systems. Are we now just supposed to go 'yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir" without being able to do the obscure experimental calculations ourselves.
You posted dogma my friend!

Do you have any valid counter-arguments against the above named methods of dating, or are you simply going to whine about "oppressing free thought with scientific jargon"?

Don't try to bring up arguments against solid scientific methods and then cry foul when you find yourself ignorant of your own topic.
 

washme

Member
Greystone wrote:Evolution versus creationism should be no conflict at all as evolution merely describes 'how' God created the universe and all life.
*thats not true. God created the three worlds in 6 days. God is that powerful enough to do that! God didn't hang around for millions of years til His children appeared BUT He made us from the sand of the earth in an instant. Why is that soooo hard to believe. Was instant creation too hard for Him, that He needed a million years to plan it out??? And was the first monkey a hermaphrodite? You can run away from my question but it just shows that evolutionists are ignorant people who love listening to their own voices.
Immortal flame wrote:Are you ten years old?
I ask this, because only a pre-adolescent would formulate arguments like these
*ya bro space is a paradise and niel armstrong wasn't a freemason.
Ritalin wrote:I honestly don't even know how to respond to this guy. I don't think Im capable of dumbing myself down that much.
One mans food is another mans poison...and the Light they call darkness. Tsk tsk go figure. Everything you have been taught on tv your whole life is a delusion!
And ritalin I'll do my best to not read your silly posts where you just point fingers because you have an 'establishment' behind you. The world can take its pseudo-scientific virtual reality theoretical propaganda and shove it where the sun don't shine.
 

washme

Member
Tumbleweed wrote:Do you have any valid counter-arguments against the above named methods of dating, or are you simply going to whine about "oppressing free thought with scientific jargon"?

Don't try to bring up arguments against solid scientific methods and then cry foul when you find yourself ignorant of your own topic
*you prove your calculations here that we may believe you, don't you accuse me of being biast.
 

washme

Member
Well it doesn't help you if half the things I post just dissapear. Oh well
Tumbleweed please do a calculation for even one of these dating method so that we may acknowledge and believe the evolution doctrine. If you evolutionists can't do one of these calculations then how can you post it as your evidence for evolution??? Evolution is dogma, a state funded religion
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
I did answer it but you don't understand so ill explain it simply. Most 'theists' are not God believing at all, ever heard of wolves in sheeps clothing? Well there are a lot of them. Ppl call themselves christians but they're not true believers, they are just 'socially programmed' The word is derived from the greek 'theo' meaning God. Now how you can seperate true Judaism, which is Christianity, and God is a wonder to me. The holy prophets documented an account of their relationship with God and is proven by many true predictions and numerous artifacts including bones found of the Anakim(giants), dead sea scrolls, etc etc
To seperate theism and christianity is a distortion of the facts -an ignorant & hypocritical system of self-worship under a pretence. A masqurade.
*Do you honestly believe roman catholics are theists? What is your 'fact' based upon here? it seems terribly inaccurate!

Okay, do you think for one minute that you can have the common decency to learn how to use the quote functions this forum provides so that your posts aren't a raving mess?

Now, though I'm sure this is an effort in futility, I will address your ridiculous statements.

Here's a very simple definition of "god" for you:
Main Entry: god
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Pronunciation:
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Function: noun
1 capitalized : the supreme or almighty reality; especially : the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness whom people worship as creator and ruler of the universe
2 : a being believed to have more than human powers <ancient peoples worshipped many gods>
3 : a physical object (as an image or idol) worshipped as divine
4 : something held to be the most important thing in existence <make a god of money>


Now, since theism means a belief in a god, and there are many forms of theism; pantheism, polytheism, monotheism, panentheism and so on and so forth, this makes a great deal of theists in the world. All theists do not believe the same things as there are different gods to believe in and different concepts of god to consider. No matter how you may rant and rave and wish it to be so, Christianity and the Abrahamic god in general aren't the only theistic options in the world. Stomp your foot and insist if you feel you must, but you are wrong nonetheless.

Now, if you have the mental capacity to actually understand what I have explained to you then you would have to admit you are wrong and that Roman Catholics and all other religions in which there is at least one deity involved, are in fact, theistic, and have theistic followers. Thus making my earlier statement that there are more theists who accept the fact of evolution than there are atheists by sheer population statistics alone a hard fact.

I repeat, no matter how you want to deny that I am a theist or that a Roman Catholic is a theist or that a Hindu is a theist...you are wrong. And the more you rant and rave like a lunatic against actual facts and reality the more absurd you make yourself. If that's your goal, have at it, because you're doing a great job so far.
 
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