sandy whitelinger said:
Good Golly there's a lot of confusion out theah. First of all when did the thief on the cross get baptised? Or maybe he only made it to Paradise instead of heaven.
Also why did baptism get left out in John 3:18? "[17] For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
[18] He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Rastaguy, just believe in Jesus, it's all you need. He will do the rest.
Amen Sandy Whitelinger, amen! There is confusion about baptism. There are verses saying believe and be baptised. But the moment we believe, we are saved, baptism is a step of obedience, and outward profession of our faith, symbolic that we HAVE been burried in death with Christ and are now alive in Him, new creatures, born again. It is a confusion among many, but the blood of Christ washes away our sins, not water. Folks who believe that salvation is found in their church only and only in its ordinances and rituals, for example the Catholic or Mormon church (which I love them), but they believe they are the only true church, and add works to the free gift of salvation instead as a result of that great salvation. So, instead of 'He that believes in me hath eternal life', they say he that believes, is baptised, is layed hands on, goes through temple ceremonies, or sacraments, and does good works all their life, might be saved if they work hard enough, no guarantee. But its only through their church and there's alone, that people are saved. Well, I say it is through CHRIST ALONE, period. I was baptized, believe one should attend church to grow and fellowship, and worship God, and to serve Him. But not to get or keep saved, God saves us, God keeps us.
Rastaguy, I will say this, the Bible makes it clear that we all have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God. That the penalty for sin is death (in Hell), but the gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus. We MUST accept Jesus as our saviour. We have to believe that his death on the cross paid for all our sins, that he gave us his righteousness, so that we may stand in the presence of God Almighty and not be consumed. For God cannot allow sin in his presence, our goodness is not enough, we must trust in what Jesus did on the cross to go to Heaven. A person can pray, something like, Jesus, I admit I am a sinner and cannot make it to Heaven on my own goodness. I believe you died on the cross to pay for my sins, and accept your gift of eternal life. Thank-you for saving me. If you pray that, or feel that in your heart, then I believe you were born again, and are saved to the uttermost.
If I insulted anyone or anything with this post, I apologize, that is just my belief.
Sincerely,
Joeboonda