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Radiation and Lies
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Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Here is my opinion. The crisis in Japan is clearly not over. Radiation continues to pour out of the nuclear plant there, unabated (and considering that, I have to wonder why our media is so quiet about it - I think it's pretty big news).
Considering the Gulf Stream, and the fact that this whole event is clearly NOT OVER YET, I did what I considered the prudent thing - I bought potassium iodide the minute this all happened, and sent some to my kids and kept some. I also began taking a moderate dose of it since it takes awhile to build up. I have suffered absolutely no ill effects from it.
So - I have a supply of potassium iodide on hand IN CASE there is ever a nuclear disaster here. I know that if it's definitely needed, it will be hard to actually GET - so I am prepared. It's taking up a space in one cabinet of my house of about 2 square inches and cost me less than $50 for me, my children and all my grandchildren.
I wouldn't classify that response as something weird or paranoid. I would call it appropriately cautious.
Considering the Gulf Stream, and the fact that this whole event is clearly NOT OVER YET, I did what I considered the prudent thing - I bought potassium iodide the minute this all happened, and sent some to my kids and kept some. I also began taking a moderate dose of it since it takes awhile to build up. I have suffered absolutely no ill effects from it.
So - I have a supply of potassium iodide on hand IN CASE there is ever a nuclear disaster here. I know that if it's definitely needed, it will be hard to actually GET - so I am prepared. It's taking up a space in one cabinet of my house of about 2 square inches and cost me less than $50 for me, my children and all my grandchildren.
I wouldn't classify that response as something weird or paranoid. I would call it appropriately cautious.
I've been consuming extra bacon....just in case the radiation reaches here.
Can't be too careful!
Can't be too careful!
I don't think you're behaving skeptically in this case.
- what is the actual effect that the Fukushima incident is going to have on you? Can you give actual numbers for, say, percent change in radiation exposure? Do you have anything more than a nuclear boogeyman to justify your response? Have your decisions been based on logical inferences from real evidence?
- are your actions proportional? Do you treat non-nuclear risks with the same level of caution (or paranoia) that you apply to this? Note that part of this question involves you having some idea of the actual level of risk that Fukushima presents for you.
- are your actions consistent? For instance, if you think that your increased radiation dosage because of Fukushima is enough to make you take KI pills now, did you take them in the past when you knew you would be exposed to similar doses of radiation... for instance, when you would take a cross-country airline flight?
The increase in background radiation for you from Fukushima is somewhat less than the difference in background radiation between a wood building and one made of concrete or brick (due to the naturally-occurring low levels of radioactive material in the rock used). You say you sent KI pills to your family; have you also advised them to check the type of buildings where they live and work, and either move or get a new job if they find they're living or working in a brick or concrete building?
Edit: it's common for people to improperly assign more or less risk to potential threats based on whether they're spectacular or mundane: parents who don't make their kids wear bike helmets will go crazy worrying about school snipers. So far, it seems to me that your response to the Fukushima incident has been based more on that sort of thinking than a careful examination of the facts.
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She's spending so little money on radiation mitigation, that it seems a proportionate response.
To respond only slightly irrationally is a healthy thing when it gives one peace of mind.
To respond only slightly irrationally is a healthy thing when it gives one peace of mind.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
First of all, it probably took me less time and effort to buy the potassium iodide than it did for you to write this post, so...let's put things in perspective. The stuff is dirt cheap. Heck, I didn't even spend any money sending it to my kids - I took it with me when I visited them a few days after the events in Japan.
Before you take precautions which require such small effort, do you do some sort of scientific research on every precaution, or do you sometimes figure that the effort is so simple, hell, why not?
Most people well within the normal range of cautious do more than the odds require. If not - how do you explain the success of insurance companies?
7he4uthor
Member
1- lets consider that perhaps [thermonuclear] hell has aleady broken loose ?
2- potassium iodide [or kelp] offers no protection from the plutonium kind of radiation from japan
but most people are so uninformed on this that you could sell it
... like selling parsely to a kid looking for his first marijuana cigarette
pretty easy
and useless
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Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Potassium iodide only protects the thyroid against thyroid cancer caused by exposure to radiation. I realize that. It does not protect the rest of the body from anything.
There's not much we could do to protect ourselves in the face of a nuclear disaster.
We just do what we can.
7he4uthor
Member
NO!
it does NOT !
u missed the point
japan uses MOX rods PLUTONIUM
Potassium iodide and kelp are USELESS against this KIND of radiation
thats what i posted
u missed it completely
as has the whole public
your pills offer ZERO protection against japan radiation
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Not according to my research.
In fact, the only sources I could find that DID agree with your statement were what I would call "highly suspect." (And in fact, I only found one.)
If you have some credible sources, please post them.
Of course, I do realize that potassium iodide doesn't offer protection from all the effects of radiation poisoning. It only protects the thyroid - but thyroid cancer is very common after radiation poisoning.
Besides that, I am not taking potassium iodide just because of the crisis in Japan. I am also concerned about the possibility of a serious earthquake on our West Coast, which could compromise the nuclear power plants in that area. I want to be prepared for that scenario as well.
So - I do not believe that I've wasted my $50.
MOX fuel is a mixture of plutonium with uranium. In fact, the "M" stands for "mixed".
"Japan radiation"? :sarcastic
KI pills are for protection against uptake of radioactive isotopes of iodine. Both plutonium and uranium produce radioactive isotopes of iodine when they decay.
You're right in one respect: 7he4uthor is wrong when he says that KI pills won't help against "Japan radiation". When they're administered to someone who's actually affected by a release of radioactive material, they do help.
However, you should be aware of something else: I did some reading online (in actual reputable sources) about KI pills, and you should be aware that they're normally only approved for short-term use in nuclear emergencies. They do have adverse health effects associated with long-term use (and short-term use in a small number of cases), and they're suspected of increasing birth defect risk.
Do your own research, but just be aware that they're not necessarily benign, especially when taken over the long term. Their risks are minor compared to the risk of thyroid cancer in an actual nuclear emergency, but they do have risks.
7he4uthor
Member
Japan reactor leak 'serious setback'
Radioactive water pouring from troubled reactors is hindering efforts to bring the nuclear power plant under control.
Japan's crippled nuclear power plant has been damaged more severely than originally thought, officials said, a serious setback for efforts to stabilise the radiation-leaking complex, leaving the portion of the fuel rods still intact fully exposed.
Nuclear Industrial and Safety Agency officials said the new data indicates that it is likely that partially melted fuel had fallen to the bottom of the pressurised vessel that holds the reactor core together and possibly leaked down into the drywell soon after the March 11 quake and tsunami that struck Japan's northeastern coast.
Other fuel has slumped to the bottom of the pressure vessel and is thought to be covered in water.
http://english.aljaz...8309233178.html
ENENEWS Energy News
Cesium-137 rising in samples of strawberries, kale, and grass from Northern California Cesium-137 rising in samples of strawberries, kale, and grass from Northern California « Energy News #Fukushima
9 minutes ago
Radioactive water pouring from troubled reactors is hindering efforts to bring the nuclear power plant under control.
Japan's crippled nuclear power plant has been damaged more severely than originally thought, officials said, a serious setback for efforts to stabilise the radiation-leaking complex, leaving the portion of the fuel rods still intact fully exposed.
Nuclear Industrial and Safety Agency officials said the new data indicates that it is likely that partially melted fuel had fallen to the bottom of the pressurised vessel that holds the reactor core together and possibly leaked down into the drywell soon after the March 11 quake and tsunami that struck Japan's northeastern coast.
Other fuel has slumped to the bottom of the pressure vessel and is thought to be covered in water.
http://english.aljaz...8309233178.html
ENENEWS Energy News
Cesium-137 rising in samples of strawberries, kale, and grass from Northern California Cesium-137 rising in samples of strawberries, kale, and grass from Northern California « Energy News #Fukushima
9 minutes ago
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7he4uthor
Member
incredible multiple meltdowns as fukashiva
send radiation to america
no end in sight
video with nuclear expert
“There have been nuclear explosions” — “Ongoing nuclear reaction taking place now” (VIDEO) « Energy News
send radiation to america
no end in sight
video with nuclear expert
“There have been nuclear explosions” — “Ongoing nuclear reaction taking place now” (VIDEO) « Energy News