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Does anyone ever have the right to harm someone else?
- Thread starter Jaymes
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The 'right to harm someone' ? - No, not in my book. Is it 'right' ? No, but that's humanity for you.Jensa said:
i think I can honestly say that there have been very few occasions when i have even wanted to hurt someone - and then, it has never been physical - though maybe 'hurting with words' is worse........
Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
It is never right to harm another person no matter how provoked.
I think Jesus would even be surprised to hear the question.
Terry_________________________
Blessed are the gentle, they shall inherit the land
I think Jesus would even be surprised to hear the question.
Terry_________________________
Blessed are the gentle, they shall inherit the land
Feathers in Hair
World's Tallest Hobbit
No.
Whether you can convince yourself of that is another matter.
Whether you can convince yourself of that is another matter.
Green Gaia
Veteran Member
No, I don't think so, although we justify it to ourselves all the time.
nutshell
Well-Known Member
Well, just to be different, I'm going to say YES.
It is right to harm someone else when it is in self-defense. If you or someone you love is being attacked, you have every right to administer physical harm to the person to stop them.
I'm all for "Turn the other cheek," but if someone is attacking my wife, I'm not going to offer them my daughter also. Rather, the paramedics will have to scrape the attacker off the ground with a shovel.
It is right to harm someone else when it is in self-defense. If you or someone you love is being attacked, you have every right to administer physical harm to the person to stop them.
I'm all for "Turn the other cheek," but if someone is attacking my wife, I'm not going to offer them my daughter also. Rather, the paramedics will have to scrape the attacker off the ground with a shovel.
Green Gaia
Veteran Member
nutshell said:
Then you'd be acting in self defense, not acting out of a wish to harm. I see a difference. I would defend myself and loved ones as well. But after the attacker is subdued and in police custody, then it would not be proper for me to go throttle the person or shoot them, even if I felt like doing it because of what the person did.
The Black Whirlwind
Well-Known Member
in self-defense, yes. If i need to protect someone else, yes. in war, yes.
Darkdale
World Leader Pretend
mr.guy said:
Well, no, I think the law is the modern, civilized institution of enacting revenge. You attack me, you get locked up for a spell. I view punishment as harm. Or are we only talking physical harm?
Harm is caused all the time for all kinds of reasons and I think, as long as we stay within the law we're fine.
linwood
Well-Known Member
Yes they do and I`ve at times used this right.Jensa said:
When someone threatens to harm me or my family I have that right.
If the only way to stop someone from causing harm to another is to harm them then yes you have that right.
I have no problem justifying it.
I`d say it does.
lilithu
The Devil's Advocate
Has the right? Who knows? Who gives us rights?Jensa said:
Imo, it is ethical (or not unethical) to harm someone in self-defense, if harm is the only option available. Imo, it is ethical to harm someone to protect someone else who cannot protect themselves, if harm is the only option available. Harming someone because they made you mad or hurt your feelings is not ethical. Harming someone because they harmed you in the past is not ethical. Revenge is not ethical, imo.
Qumran
Member
John 2:15:Terrywoodenpic said:
"So, after making a whip of ropes, he (Jesus) drove all those with the sheep and cattle out of the temple, and he poured out the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables."
Revelation 19:11-16:
"And I saw the heavens opened, and look! A white horse. And the one seated upon it called Faithful and True. And he judges and carries on WAR in righteousness....and the name he is called is The Word of God.....and out of his mouth there protrudes a sharp long SWORD that he may strike the nations.....and upon his outer garment he has a name written....,King of kings and Lord of lords."
In my view Jesus would NOT be surprised to hear the question since, evidently, even he believes harming another person or even violent action may SOMETIMES be justified and "right."
Bye the way, the comment at the end of you post sounds like a paraphrase of Psalms 37:11 which says; "The meek ones will possess (or "inherit" in some translations) the earth." Not to split hairs but, "meek" and "gentle" are not synonyms.
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Look at Bible record of MANY wars approved and blessed by God, with countless hundreds of thousands of casualties, soldiers, men woman and children, particularly in the Old or Hebrew scriptures, and it is plain that there ARE occassions when violence against another person is "right" - at least by Biblical standards.
Note: I am NOT Christian but am resonably familiar with the Bible.
Draka
Wonder Woman
Revenge may not be ethical...but I can dream can't I? I can sit back and hope that what someone has inflicted upon me happens to them many times over so that they know the full damage they cause to others with their actions. I can let others know what this person does, I can warn others about this person and to be wary of them...and if karma boots them in the butt then I will dance. I will revel in their pain knowing that they finally know what it feels like to be on the receiving end of the pain they inflict. If that is cruel of me then oh, well. I really don't care...let me dance.:jiggy: )(