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Bill Bennett strikes again

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jonny

Well-Known Member
That is unbelievable. I think I might be able to see what he is trying to get at...but I can't believe anyone would actually try to make that point.
 
Feathers in Hair

Feathers in Hair

World's Tallest Hobbit
Don't change your username! (Unless you named your username after him, and then you might have some things to worry about, hehee!)

I'm afraid I wasn't quite sure about your last sentance. Were you saying that the conservatives would be the ones critisizing Bill Bennett? (Cheers to them, if you were!)
 
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IronicallyTwisted

Member
If it were your sole purpose to reduce crime, Bennett said, "You could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down.

"That would be an impossible, ridiculous and morally reprehensible thing to do, but your crime rate would go down," he added.
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Maybe i'm just going out on a whim here, but I think he made an ingenius point. There is a line to be drawn at the measures we can take to reduce crime.


I suppose, my interpretation is, statistics aren't everything
 
Bennettresearch

Bennettresearch

Politically Incorrect
FeathersinHair said:
Don't change your username! (Unless you named your username after him, and then you might have some things to worry about, hehee!)

I'm afraid I wasn't quite sure about your last sentance. Were you saying that the conservatives would be the ones critisizing Bill Bennett? (Cheers to them, if you were!)
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Yes, and I am already hearing it on my favorite talk shows.:bounce
 
Bennettresearch

Bennettresearch

Politically Incorrect
IronicallyTwisted said:
Maybe i'm just going out on a whim here, but I think he made an ingenius point. There is a line to be drawn at the measures we can take to reduce crime.


I suppose, my interpretation is, statistics aren't everything
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Someone getting the hook here? I am a conservative but this is really a stupid thing for Bill to want to point at black crime even if it has gone up statistically. There is no real point here and it is really unfair to the blacks of our nation to talk this way. Bill deserves the pounding he will get from this one.:tsk:
 
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IronicallyTwisted

Member
Bennettresearch said:
Someone getting the hook here? I am a conservative but this is really a stupid thing for Bill to want to point at black crime even if it has gone up statistically.
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Black Crime is statistically sound. Its not racist to point out the significance of African American crime, in the same way that it is not sexist to point out that women are safer drivers. Mathematics is objective, not subjective.

Bennettresearch said:
There is no real point here and it is really unfair to the blacks of our nation to talk this way. Bill deserves the pounding he will get from this one.:tsk:
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The "blacks of our nation"? A prime example of reverse racism where it becomes taboo to speak factual negativities of a race or culture. He made a significant point, and, if you manage to look past the phrase abort black babies you will see a message that is anything but discriminatory. I don't care about Bill or whatever he has written: I care about his right to voice a statistical phonomenon without being branded a biggot.
 
Yerda

Yerda

Veteran Member
IronicallyTwisted said:
Maybe i'm just going out on a whim here, but I think he made an ingenius point. There is a line to be drawn at the measures we can take to reduce crime.
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Is that what he was saying, cutting crime can't always take primacy? Or was he just being overtly racist?
 
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Prophet Rashad

Member
IronicallyTwisted said:
The "blacks of our nation"? A prime example of reverse racism where it becomes taboo to speak factual negativities of a race or culture. He made a significant point, and, if you manage to look past the phrase abort black babies you will see a message that is anything but discriminatory. I don't care about Bill or whatever he has written: I care about his right to voice a statistical phonomenon without being branded a biggot.
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If that is the case he should have also said abort all white babies born in poor neighborhoods and in trailer parks. If he going to look at statistics he should look at all statistics. The fact of the matter is it is a racist comment point blank.

-The Prophet:cool:
 
lilithu

lilithu

The Devil's Advocate
Jaiket said:
Is that what he was saying, cutting crime can't always take primacy? Or was he just being overtly racist?
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Both. The intent of his remark was to say that there are limits to what can be done to reduce crime, but his racist assumptions came out in the example that he gave.


Prophet Rashad said:
If that is the case he should have also said abort all white babies born in poor neighborhoods and in trailer parks. If he going to look at statistics he should look at all statistics. The fact of the matter is it is a racist comment point blank.
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Exactly!

IronicallyTwisted, I understand your comments about us being a little too sensitive when it comes to race, as if we can't recognize any differences between us. There are. And I agree with you that disproportionately more blacks go to jail than whites. However, one has to look past the statistics. As Prophet Rashad points out, poverty is one of the underlying reasons for that statistic. Disproportionately more poor people go to jail than wealthier people. I would also add that our justice system is geared more towards prosecuting crimes more often committed by the poor than "white-collar" crime. For Bill Bennett to off-handedly throw out a comment like that reveals that he believes that the propensity to commit crime is directly linked to race.

Look, I'm willing to bet that he's not the only one who thinks that. He's just a well-known pundit who got caught. What he should do is just apologize, say that he wasn't thinking properly when he made those remarks, and now that he's had the time to think things thru he realizes that it was an incorrect and very hurtful, racist statement. And apologize. I would much rather people recognize their racist assumptions and change them than for us to go around calling each other racists. Even Bill Bennett, whom I don't care for at all.

Bennettresearch, I don't think this will make much more than a ripple. He made the comment on Wednesday and even late last night I could barely find any mention of it in the news. It will blow over. But I thought I would share it here for anyone who has any illusions that racism is no longer an issue in this country.
 
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